who is the best England striker ever

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by Diego Maradona, Mar 1, 2009.

  1. RoyOfTheRovers

    Jul 24, 2009
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England

    [Yes, but thanx for the tip, mate.]
     
  2. RoyOfTheRovers

    Jul 24, 2009
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    So, again, unless anyone says different, does this one just go to Greaves? Anybody up for a all-time greatest England centre-forward (Drake-type target man) thread? I'll go ahead and start it if anyone says they'll post @ least once.
     
  3. RoyOfTheRovers

    Jul 24, 2009
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
  4. Dearman

    Dearman Member

    Argentina
    Feb 24, 2010
    Bangkok, Thailand
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Nat'l Team:
    Thailand
    When you would like to rank strikers, I think states of scoring is very important because it is thier main duty unavoidably. Jimmy Greaves won Lineker and Shearer by far.
     
  5. RoyOfTheRovers

    Jul 24, 2009
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
     
  6. Dearman

    Dearman Member

    Argentina
    Feb 24, 2010
    Bangkok, Thailand
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Nat'l Team:
    Thailand
    Yeah, I have received your PM of Bigsoccer.com.
     
  7. RoyOfTheRovers

    Jul 24, 2009
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    [Good, glad to hear it, mate. :cool: Keep up the good work on all of those excellent all-time profiles. On topic: do you see what I mean about comparing Greavsie & Lineker to Shearer?]
     
  8. 0iori5

    0iori5 New Member

    Apr 17, 2010
    Club:
    AC Ajaccio
    Owen and Heskey partnership worked well, but given the chance, i think Crouch could score bags more and break into the so called "40-club" as Lineker called it.









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  9. LostintheBarrens

    LostintheBarrens New Member

    Nov 4, 2004
  10. RoyOfTheRovers

    Jul 24, 2009
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    [Good call on "Peter Pan", mate. John Barnes, Jimmy Greaves, Johnny Haynes, Wilf Mannion, Jimmy Mullen, etc.: England have had their fair share of left-footed star players IMHO.]
     
  11. LostintheBarrens

    LostintheBarrens New Member

    Nov 4, 2004
    John Barnes was another that had a decent left peg.

    It seems in recent times though anyone who seemed remotely able to cross from the left was going to make the England team. What was that kid from Mboro, Townsend I think?

    Did the '66 team have a proper left footer?
     
  12. RoyOfTheRovers

    Jul 24, 2009
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
     
  13. GranCanMan

    GranCanMan Member

    Jan 12, 2007
    Manchester
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Never had a good left footer? Pah!

    We had Steve Guppy, didn't we................ :D
     
  14. RoyOfTheRovers

    Jul 24, 2009
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    [HA! That's a good one, mate. & don't forget that the likes of Bobby Charlton & Jimmy Mullen had nothing on Guppy! ;)]
     
  15. GranCanMan

    GranCanMan Member

    Jan 12, 2007
    Manchester
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Don't forget Jason Wilcox. A legend in his own lunch tmie, that lad. ;)


    It is strange how we've never really produced a decent left footer. Our general solution to the problem has been to throw our most versatile attacking player onto that flank, be it teven Gerrard or Joe Cole. What we'd do now for a Chris Waddle now, as slow as him and his mullet were............
     
  16. RoyOfTheRovers

    Jul 24, 2009
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
     
  17. GranCanMan

    GranCanMan Member

    Jan 12, 2007
    Manchester
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    It's amazing how much difference it makes. When Barry first came through he made his debut and immediately there was balance to the side, as we had a left footer on the left. They don't even have to be world beaters. Someone like Albert Riera would do. Just a player capable of going down the outside of his fullback and putting a half decent, out-swinging cross into the box, would make all the difference.

    We have Ashley Young and James Milner all capable of playing on the left, indeed Young specialises there, but he's still right footed. The best we can hope for is for him to come inside and create space for Ashley Cole to get forward and make a difference, butt then, of course, you leave yourself open at the back.
     
  18. RoyOfTheRovers

    Jul 24, 2009
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
     
  19. RoyOfTheRovers

    Jul 24, 2009
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
     
  20. RoyOfTheRovers

    Jul 24, 2009
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England



    [Don't forget that Woodward was a "pyramid"-mould centre-forward: he did A LOT more than just plant himself like a telegraph pole up-front and then engage opposition central defenders in physical battles IMHO. I was told by people who saw Woodward in action that both Spurs and Chelsea utilised Woodward as more of a front-line initiator/creative player while he was more of an out-&-out goal-scoring threat for both the England senior and amateur side. That would account mainly for the differences in Woodward's career scoring tallies at club and international level(s) IMO...]
     
  21. RoyOfTheRovers

    Jul 24, 2009
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England





    [Rooney doesn't seem to thrive as either an out-&-out front-man or as a "card-carrying" No.9 C-F IMO: he seems to be best utilised as either an "SS" or as a creative free-role "FW" for both United & England...]
     
  22. RoyOfTheRovers

    Jul 24, 2009
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England




    [This is an often forgotten attacking asset that Lineker had in and around the athletic peak of his playing career because fans tend to think of him/YouTube tips tend to portray him as being just a "goal-hanger" IMHO...]
     
  23. RoyOfTheRovers

    Jul 24, 2009
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England




    [Shearer would've been the "old-fashioned" No.9 that forced gaps in the opposition's defence that Greaves would've hopefully been able to capitalise on: Shearer = Sir Geoff Hurst or Bobby Smith; Greaves = Michael Owen or Ian Wright IMHO...]
     
  24. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    so what is your final verdict? Jimmi or Sheraer? and do not tell me ... G. Hurst? LOL
     
  25. RoyOfTheRovers

    Jul 24, 2009
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England



    [I've already stated it at least twice in this very thread: Greaves (arguably) makes the best case for being both the top English AND England (as in playing for the NT) "predator"-type "ST".

    Sir Geoff Hurst and Shearer aren't the same type of striker as Greaves and they do different jobs on the pitch: a dominant No.9 centre-forward is going to make life easier for a predator like Greaves; just as Bobby Smith did for both Spurs and England IMHO.

    Also, don't take Hurst's claim to being a highly effective England No.9 too lightly: he was VERY good at the things that he was out on the pitch for...]
     

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