Who Has The Potential To Become A Upcoming European Legend?

That is precisely my point, with all that talent they didn't do better than they're doing now yet here you are whingeing about it! I don't understand your complaints. Everybody knows this isn't a top generation of Dutch footballers. So what? We've been through bad patches before. The difference being that now we continue to perform consistently even despite having less in-depth quality.

Seriously blank out all thoughts for a moment, look at the list below and assume this is A football nation's record and not necessarily Holland's, and then try to form a neutral opinion on it.

This national team has:
1. Consistently been in the world's top 10 for the past 20 years.
2. Has lost one out of its last 19 competitive matches.
3. Has a population of 16 million.
4. Many of its footballers play in the biggest leagues for big clubs.
5. The popularity of its domestic league is bigger than ever before in its history.
6. Its youth teams have consistently reached the knock out stages of their international tournaments in each age category in recent years.
7. Its managers develop talent, manage youth programmes and coach clubs and countries around the world.

Can you seriously look at that list and think 'oh dear, that football nation is in a pretty bad state'?

 

Keep your bullshit.

I thought we were talking about the current crop.

What were we facing?

Yes, and thirty years ago it was even less.

Not surprising, as these days foreigners are cheaper than homegrown players.

Good thing the crowd still likes the game!
Totaly irrelevant, though.

I don't care about youth teams. Only about the players they produce. Running harder wins you youth games, but not on the highest level.

And now look which teams they are coaching and look at their age. Most class managers are not from the current crop. The only exception is Rijkaard and most likely Van Basten will join him.

 

1. We are. They're now no. 6 in the Fifa rankings and that's the lowest they've been ranked under Van Basten's leadership.
2. The Czech Republic, Romania, Ivory Coast, Argentina and the Serbs, among others. All have more class than, say, Northern Ireland, wouldn't you say?
4. What kind of a rubbish argument is that, considering that none of our national team starters are bench warmers for their club? Do you think Chelsea would start Robben if they thought he wasn't good enough? Arsenal Van Persie? Liverpool Kuyt?
6. The point being, how can you slam our youth development when they're world class in their age categories? Who else are you going to compare our youngsters with, seasoned professionals?
7. This made me laugh out loud also. Have you CHECKED the age of your typical international manager, at all? Do you even REALISE that Van Basten and Rijkaard aren't even in their forties yet? That IS our new generation of managers, they were all still playing football ten years ago for heaven's sake! Would you like Ajax to be managed by 20 year olds?


And a special mention for 5:

That just about totally sums you up, a total disrespect for the crowds and the fans who actually finance the Dutch football association. Football's ALL about the fans. Without fans there is no football. Whether YOU like it or not is totally irrelevant. The Dutch crowds love their domestic league and without them paying for it you wouldn't be able to watch it on your television.

 

1. Is there anything the Fifa does well?
2. I'm not even getting into that.
4. I don't think you understand what I was saying. And, like I said, it was never about Robben and Van Persie etc.
6. They aren't worldclass. Not when it matters (read: on the highest level).
7. Just a glimpse of intelligence would do.

5. Fans also like good football and prizes.

 

I'm sorry Bertje but to me you're just another ajax fan who's bitter about his club's glory days being over, and that inspires your negativity about Dutch football in general. The vast majority of Dutch fans enjoy their club and their national team regardless of them not always playing good football. Because they're fans and they know that football is about much more than football to start off with. This is something it seems you can't understand.

 

Interesting point.

 

Messi could be really great player

 

Provided he's allowed to play at center mid I agree. I also think since the question is about potential and none of these is yet a legend (assuming you meant players who play in Europe)...

Messi
Rooney
Fabregas
DeRossi
Lahm

 

The new Ronaldo, post-World Cup, is the best young player in the world at the moment. Best winger, no doubt.

 

Robinho and Kaka.

 

Diego without a doubt, he is really shining in the Bundesliga. Give him a few more seasons and he will be with the biggest clubs in Europe

 

Radoslaw Matusiak could be an elite in few years

 

Bastian Schweinsteiger:

Only 22 but still participated in 1 Euro and 1 World Cup and 41 Caps for Germany with 13 goals and 17 assists as a left midfielder and sometimes left defender.

Now progressing to the central midfield and playmaker role at Bayern Munich.

If his way stays on course, he has more than 10 years as a main player of the german NT and Bayern or other big european clubs in his feet, which could make him the next german record international, beating Matthäus´150 caps, because never in history of german football a 22 year old had 41 caps.

 

Until Podolski breaks that record lol

But Kevin Prince Boateng will become so good that Schweinsteiger will be shining his boots

Unfortunately he will be at Bayern by then too

 

I think the two in my eyes that are European are Klaas Jan Huntelaar, and Rafael Van der Vaart.

As for non-europeans, Aguero heads my list. I must say I was impressed the first time I watched him for Atletico. He has that drive that great players have.

Of course there is Messi, and Rooney. Let's see what happens. They all have potential, let's see what happens in the next couple of years.

As for a wildcard from my country of Serbia, watch out for Simon Vuckevic, and Dusan Basta, and Bosko Jankovic.

Jankovic is currently playing for RCD Mallorca and has already started to score since coming from FC Red Star Belgrade this summer.

 

messi, rooney, fabregas, torres (maybe), podolski

 

torres is overrated i dunno why everyone outside of spain believes torres is a good player. i say upcoming legends...robinho, messi, rooney.

 

It must be his mindboggling 12-15 goals a season ..
I really don't understand why Sir Alex Ferguson is drooling over Torres, if he wants a quality spanish striker, there is only 1, David Villa.

 

I sometimes don´t know wether to smile or cry, how underrated Schweinsteiger is.

I smile, as a Bayern supporter, because it let´s me hope that there will be one or another year that the big money clubs keep their hands off from him.

I cry, because the same people that don´t see the big influence he already has on Bayern and Germany, as the player with the most games for Bayern and Germany in 2006, are dreaming from Messi, Rooney. C. Ronaldo, Ribery as the best young ingternational prospects and would pay fantazillions for them, while all of them are far away from the number of goals and assists Schweini has delivered this year.

Actually, I don´t know any player on the big stages, may he be younger or older, that has a bigger rate of long distance piledriver goals than Schweini in the last 12 months.
I remember at least 15 for Germany or Bayern.

 

I sometimes don´t know wether to smile or cry, how underrated Schweinsteiger is.

I smile, as a Bayern supporter, because it let´s me hope that there will be one or another year that the big money clubs keep their hands off from him.

I cry, because the same people that don´t see the big influence he already has on Bayern and Germany, as the player with the most games for Bayern and Germany in 2006, are dreaming from Messi, Rooney. C. Ronaldo, Ribery as the best young ingternational prospects and would pay fantazillions for them, while all of them are far away from the number of goals and assists Schweini has delivered this year.

Actually, I don´t know any midfield player on the big stages, may he be younger or older, that has a bigger rate of long distance piledriver goals in the last 12 months than Schweini .
I remember at least 15 for Germany or Bayern.

 

Carlos Vela