Who are the favorites to win the WC 2022?

Discussion in 'World Cup 2022 - Qatar' started by MIGkiller, Mar 31, 2021.

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Who will win in 2022?

  1. Germany

    19 vote(s)
    11.3%
  2. France

    33 vote(s)
    19.6%
  3. Brazil

    54 vote(s)
    32.1%
  4. Argentina

    35 vote(s)
    20.8%
  5. Portugal

    17 vote(s)
    10.1%
  6. Spain

    10 vote(s)
    6.0%
  7. England

    14 vote(s)
    8.3%
  8. Netherlands

    16 vote(s)
    9.5%
  9. Italy

    5 vote(s)
    3.0%
  10. Belgium

    6 vote(s)
    3.6%
  11. Other

    24 vote(s)
    14.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. verde-rubro

    verde-rubro BigSoccer Yellow Card

    C.S.Maritimo + Liverpool FC
    Portugal
    Jan 15, 2005
    LONDON
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    No he 1st celebrated with the players shook their hands the Swiss players and refs then he left while the team stayed longer on the pitch
     
  2. Dominican Lou

    Dominican Lou Member+

    Nov 27, 2004
    1936 Catalonia
    Even Croatia is probably the weakest of the quarterfinalists so you guys got luck as well as talent on your side.

    Only the semis and finals will be hard. Easiest path to the cup since 2002.
     
  3. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    I have zero idea who wins this competition !

    Any out of the last 8 other than Croatia I’d say … Holland and Morocco are real dark horses as well .

    The other five all have an equal chance .. guess it’s gonna come down to a bit of luck judging by Spain hitting the post with the last kick of extra time ..

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  4. Kamtedrejt

    Kamtedrejt Member+

    Internazionale Milano
    Albania
    Mar 14, 2017
    Hamburg
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Albania
    Wow, bookies have it now close to 50:50 regarding who of UEFA or CONMEBOL lifts the trophy.

    That just doesn't add up in my calculation.

    There is only one CONMEBOL team left who has a shot at winning while UEFA has four.

    Bookies got it again damn wrong!
     
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  5. RonaldoHexa

    RonaldoHexa Member

    Bahia
    Brazil
    Feb 26, 2018
    I don't understand this lack of faith in Croatia. As a team, I think they are greater than the sum of the individual parts. There are four undefeated teams left in the world cup and Croatia is one of them. They were down a goal against Canada (I was at the stadium that night) and Japan, and then came back to beat both of them. It's a fairly old team, but they still have players that can make a difference. This, in addition to their never-die attitude, makes them a formidable opponent.

    Brazil is the favorite, but this game will be closer than people think.
     
  6. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Paddy Power bookies just on the radio and confirmed that two punters won big .. correctly betting on a 6:1 Portugal victory over Morocco at odds of 200:1 !!
     
  7. Xylophone

    Xylophone Member

    Fiorentina
    Jan 30, 2018
    Brazil vs. Switzerland & South Korea: 6 points, 5-1 GD
    Portugal vs. Switzerland & South Korea: 3 points, 7-3 GD
     

  8. :ROFLMAO:
     
  9. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    But three of those four are on one side of the draw. Only one can reach the final.
    And that one CONMEBOL team you feel has a shot is picked my many to reach the final.
    So 50/50 doesn't sound all that crazy.

    What would you rate the odds between UEFA and CONMEBOL winning it all?
     
  10. Kamtedrejt

    Kamtedrejt Member+

    Internazionale Milano
    Albania
    Mar 14, 2017
    Hamburg
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Albania
    I'd say it's still at least 60:40 for UEFA.

    Argentina imo doesn't stand a chance against the Netherlands.

    Brazil will still in all likelyhood have to beat two 1st tier UEFA sides in order to lift the trophy.

    I could see Brazil beating maybe one but I have a tough time seeing them beating two.

    The last time Brazil beat an UEFA powerhouse in a koncokout stage match was in 2002.

    I feel beating two on a bounce might be too much to ask for them.
     
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  11. dna77054

    dna77054 Member+

    Jun 28, 2003
    houston
    That is impressive, winning on a game that has yet to be played ;)
     
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  12. The Special One

    The Special One Member+

    Aug 6, 2005
    I can’t see Argentina getting past the Dutch, it’s a really bad matchup for them and Van Gaal tactics will minimise Messi’s influence so the question will be are the others good enough to make a difference, im not so sure. We saw an insight into how Argentina deals with adversity in the Saudi game and also when they conceded a goal against Australia. They have a soft underbelly snf very Messi centric and football in recent times is more so about the collective than the individual
     
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  13. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    Holland should be favoured, but Argentina have a goal or two in them. As usual the first goal will set up the game.
     
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  14. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    Holland vs Brazil will be interesting, but I'm betting on Brazil, while backing Holland
     
  15. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    I see a 5:0 thrashing of Holland

    Their best two players aren’t even regular starters for Barcelona
     
  16. Mmm,bookies don't care about what's right or wrong. They hedge against the bets made by people and if those bets are strongly tilting towards a stupid outcome the bookies will follow that as when they don't and the stupity comes true, they're toast.
     
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    Gracenote calculated the chances of the outcome of the clashes to come.
     
  18. The Special One

    The Special One Member+

    Aug 6, 2005
    according to the bookies Argentina are favourites I can’t see why
     
  19. The Special One

    The Special One Member+

    Aug 6, 2005
    cool tell that to Japan, Morocco, Saudi Arabia the level of disrespect of opponents is at times is extraordinary.
     
  20. Everything is possible of course, but the last team to score more than 3 goals against the Orange Squad was France with 4-0.
    However Argentina hasnot got the firepower of the other blue team.
     
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  21. Kamtedrejt

    Kamtedrejt Member+

    Internazionale Milano
    Albania
    Mar 14, 2017
    Hamburg
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Albania
    You don't understand football, mate.

    In a World Cup semi-final it's not about club form of players anymore.

    It's about who has better tactics, the form on that given day and who wants it more.
     
  22. Kamtedrejt

    Kamtedrejt Member+

    Internazionale Milano
    Albania
    Mar 14, 2017
    Hamburg
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Albania
    #1922 Kamtedrejt, Dec 7, 2022
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2022
    Brazil would be favourites for that clash without a doubt.

    My hope is that Brazil enter that clash overly confident underestimating the Netherlands in a way.
    It would be the first clash against an European powerhouse since the 2018 quarterfinals against Belgium. And assuming they'll beat Croatia beating the likes of Serbia, Switzerland, South Korea and Croatia will tell us little how they would fare against the Netherlands.

    I still think Brazil are far from invincible.

    What it takes to in order to beat them?

    It takes a team that has a skillset comparable to Brazil. It takes a team that defends well and doesn't give them space for their play. It takes a team who is very direct going forward when retaining possession and it takes a team that doesn't need a whole lot chances to score.

    The Netherlands on a good day could be the team to fulfill these attributes.
     
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  23. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    I've never bought into the "who wants it more" argument.
    Every player busting their butt on the pitch wants it as much as the next person does.
    I fully agree with tactics and form. I'd also add talent and adjustments to situations during the course of the game. That's where the coach plays a key role.
    And there's that old adage "it's better to be lucky than good". Every team needs some luck, however my-nute it can be. Whether it's a key injury to the opposition, a deflection off a teammate or defender, a player sitting on a yellow and fearful that another booking would cause him being suspended for the next game, or even a wrong call by an official that VAR is unable to correct (e.g. a foul outside the box not being whistled) can turn the match one way.
    Mourinho once said that the best team doesn't always win the Champions League. I feel it's moreso in national team tournaments where "on that given day" one-offs decide who ultimately wins the trophy.
    I'm not saying that whoever wins on December 18 is not the best team in the world. After all, they got the job done against the teams they had to.
    But just because finalist 1 defeated finalist 2 doesn't mean finalist 1 would have defeated the team that finalist 2 defeated in the semifinals. Unfortunately, tournament play doesn't allow for such matchups.
    Anyway, too much rambling from me just to say that the phrase "who wants it more" is ridiculous, especially regarding the World Cup.
     
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  24. Dominican Lou

    Dominican Lou Member+

    Nov 27, 2004
    1936 Catalonia
    Agree with almost everything except with Portugal having a 51% chance of beating France. WTF?

    I'd say that's a 60-40 for France.
     
  25. Mean Machine

    Mean Machine Member

    Juventus
    Italy
    May 23, 2018
    Every Single World Cup, people always say Brazil is the favorite, they are unbeatable, nobody can beat them. BLABLABLA. Seriously: 2006, 2010, 2014, 2018, and now 2022, everyone says that Brazil will win the world cup, nobody can beat them, and they get shocked once Brazil actually goes out. Can we just accept that the media is highly bias towards Brazil?

    I only remember that in 2014, it was even between Brazil vs Germany, but that was only after Neymar and Silva being out, and after the quarterfinals happened. Before the quarters, everyone said Brazil is strong favorite against Germany even, and look what happened.
     

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