White house orders CIA Director Goss to purge.

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  1. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
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    .http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2900161

    The White House has ordered the new CIA director, Porter Goss, to purge the agency of officers thought to have been disloyal to President Bush....

    We're just goose-stepping right along now while Bush goes shopping with his "Political capital" Amazing, the loyalty to the leader takes precedence over silly things like the constitution and the will of the people. What do they know anyway....!
     
  2. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

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    Yeah, the CIA did such a bang up job in the run up to 9/11 that we don't want to upset the apple cart.
     
  3. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
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    Especially when that guy, you know the one in charge of the Bin Laden task force, said Bin Laden is at this hunting camp lets bomb the ******** out of it; right then.
     
  4. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

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    Learn to read. "WASHINGTON - The White House has ordered the new CIA director, Porter Goss, to purge the agency of officers thought to have been disloyal to President Bush..."

    What does that have to do at all with performance?
     
  5. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    If only the intel community had written a PDB entitled, "Bin Laden determined to strike within the United States," then maybe Bush would have pulled out all the stops to try to prevent 9/11. Alas, the intel community f'ed up.
     
  6. NER_MCFC

    NER_MCFC Member

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    Which reminds me that a lot of critics of the CIA feel that it's biggest problem is that it is too beholden to whoever is in the Whitehouse. The head of the CIA does what the President wants and tells him what he wants to hear.
     
  7. Roel

    Roel Member

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    More "yes men" for the president. Remember, W is a guy that can't think on his feet, and took one foreign trip (to Mexico) before he was president. The guy has no intellectual curiousity. His "yes men" will tell him what he wants to hear, and we will continue our American misadventures based the gut instinct of a guy that doesn't know the world.
     
  8. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan PLANITARCHIS' BANE

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    Apr 8, 2002
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    The resignations of Stephen Kappes, deputy director for operations, and Michael Sulick, the associate deputy director, were announced yesterday evening by Mr. Goss after several days of rumors and speculation...

    ...The two men were "the strongest leadership the DO has had in many, many years...

    Mr. Kappes, for example, was the agency's point man in the negotiations with Libyan intelligence chief Musa el-Kusa, which resulted in Libya's acknowledgment and abandonment of efforts to develop chemical and biological weapons
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    Well, see, that was his mistake; getting Libya off our scope before we could get in there, shoot some folks, lay the groundwork for more attacks, and, most importantly, secure that oil. They probably HATE Kappes for that work.

    Seriously.
     
  9. IntheNet

    IntheNet New Member

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    There are a number of folks at Langley that need to be in unemployment line for their dismal performance; let's let Mr. Goss do what the President asked him to do: fix the agency! Nobody believed this could be done without quite a few terminations!
     
  10. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
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    Well, this guy was hired to do just this, why the surprise and why did he get confirmed?
     
  11. NER_MCFC

    NER_MCFC Member

    May 23, 2001
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    Congressional Democrats didn't make a stand on Goss because they didn't think it was a good use of political capital in the months before a presidential election. This conclusion seems to have been based in part on the assumption that some form of national intelligence reform would pass Congress in the near term, in which case, the important fight would have been over the nominee for new intelligence chief position. However, that bill seems to be stalled.

    Edited to add that it was widely assumed that Goss would do exactly what he was told and nothing more, which looks to have been a pretty good guess. I don't know that there's much surprise about it. Outrage, mostly, that people are being removed not because of their performance but because they are regarded as being insufficiently subservient.
     
  12. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    Solid reply, but you must know I was being thick, taking the piss, whatever you like.

    See, what smacks us in the face after all the replies here about security and failures is the fact that to the Dems, political capital was more important than these very same issues. If we were really, really worried about security and failures, then screw political capital or even at least use that same capital to make the world better. That may not look good in the headlines, but it will or should have allowed these people sleep well at night.

    Oh well, I shouldn't be all that shocked.
     

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