Where exactly does our name "United" come from?

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by rymannryan, Feb 21, 2003.

  1. rymannryan

    rymannryan New Member

    Aug 27, 2002
    N.N., Virginia
    Yeah, yeah, I know it sounds like a dumb question, but I was wondering if someone could verify it. I've always assumed that it was because its the nations capital, but people in the thread below think its a tribute to England. I was wondering if someone was absolutely 100% sure of the reason of the name and if they could share this information with a link? Thanks.

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34413
     
  2. garbaggio

    garbaggio Member

    Jan 3, 2001
    Arlington
    Somebody at MLS headquarters probably came up with it. Ask Doug Logan?

    Actually, I remember some kind of poll asking fans to name the team. There were 3 options one including the word "United", one naming the team the "Wizards" and another one which I don't remember. My guess is that this poll was probably just to allow some fan-wanking to keep people excited and that the names were dreamed up by some Madison Ave advertising types that ran all their ideas through focus groups. Then again, maybe that would have been too much effort.

    At least the league didn't start with super-sized goals to promote more scoring (it was seriously proposed).
     
  3. chivas

    chivas New Member

    Dec 22, 2002
    Alexandria
    Good Lord!!! The name is definitely NOT a tribute to England! Ich! I will go disinfect my uniform right now to ensure their is no contamination. Ich!
     
  4. Victory

    Victory Member

    Sep 20, 2000
    RFK LOT 8
    I believe the story I have heard is that the PTB at United during it's inception wanted the team to have a more traditional feel. They felt that was a better marketing tool especially in light of the horrible uniforms and names of the teams in the first year. United while not paying homageto england is representative of a more traditional football club name
     
  5. Sachin

    Sachin New Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    The story is something like this. The original name floated for the DC team was Freedom with some fairly garish uniform combo. However, Kevin Payne decided that he didn't like it and changed the name to United for a more traditional feel. He also switched uniform suppliers from Nike to Addidas because he liked the idea of a black, white and red color scheme.

    If you think back to the 1996 uniforms and team names, you will notice that United is the only one to even approximate a traditional team name, color scheme, uniform design, etc. Clearly, that was no accident.

    Sachin
     
  6. BigBaller

    BigBaller BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Feb 20, 2003
    Your moma's house
    Thanks God they chose that name because DC is the only team in MLS that have a real soccer name and the rest are a bunch of silly jokes. rapids,galaxy,fire,wizards,earthquakes etc.......these are some really silly names to put on a pro soccer team.
     
  7. DigitalTron

    DigitalTron New Member

    Apr 4, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Correct, that's how I heard it too. In addition to thanking the much maligned visionary of DC United--Kevin Payne--for the name "United" we should also thank him for a few other things.

    1. "United"
    2. "DC" rather than "Washington"
    3. Rejecting the horrendous 1996 Nike uniforms and creating the design for DC United and approaching Adidas to make it happen
    4. Ceaslessly and single-mindedly persuing Bruce Arena to be coach long after everyone was calling for the team to find a coach
    5. Giving the coaches enough autonomy to build a winner.

    The name "United" was selected because it appealed both to the city being the Nation's Capital and it had a traditional soccer sound (i.e. like a tribute to English soccer). DC was chosen nominally because the residents of the city usually call it "DC" rather than "Washington." But, I think the more significant reason is that DC sounds much like "FC" or "AC" that also appear with many traditional soccer team names. Thus "DC United" resembles "AC Milan" or "Liverpool FC" or a million other well-received soccer names, but at the same time it fits the American sports convention of [City] [Nickname].

    The selection of the shield was, again, to give the team a more traditional soccer feel, while incorporating the symbol of the US. Kevin Payne wanted to build a soccer team, not a combination of the XFL and Jolt cola. So he resisted all of the "marketing gurus" genius and insisted that DC United be a traditional soccer brand that also fit in with the American conventions.

    When you think about it, those 5 things are exactly why we support DC United. Not only is it a great team and a local team, but it is a truly class organization. Much of that started at the top, and Kevin Payne is the guy that did it.

    I realize that it's "popular" to criticize Kevin Payne, but I'm not having any of it. His vision, passion and acumen built DC United brick by brick. In my book, he's the single best soccer executive in the United States. If DC United were going to lose him, I'm glad to see that he want to AEG, where he can continue helping MLS.

    -Tron
     
  8. mellon002

    mellon002 Member

    Jan 24, 2003
    Towson, MD
    I wonder if anyone in MLS will name a franchise "City" like Manchester City or Birmingham City. Or better yet (one of my personal favorites), when will someone name their team Dag & Red like club from the English Nationwide Conference.
     
  9. BannedInDC

    BannedInDC Member

    wasnt there also something (most probably post decision pr) about united referring to the metro area. ie: this is a team (small tear welling in the corner of my eye) that brings together the warring disparate factions of the old dominion, the free state (down w/ prohibition), and the last colony. god bless united, the district of columbia, the mid atlantic, and the usa.


    btw: does anyone have any more info on our brush w/ nike hell? perhaps pictures or a description of the rejected uni.
     
  10. cjma77

    cjma77 New Member

    Sep 18, 2002
    Gettysburg, PA , USA
    wouldn't NY/NJ count for that.
     
  11. SABuffalo786

    SABuffalo786 New Member

    May 18, 2002
    Buffalo, New York
    I heard when they were picking names, DC Spies was one of the leading canidates.
     
  12. Turk from Pigs Eye

    Turk from Pigs Eye New Member

    Jun 14, 2002
    Pigs Eye (St. Paul),
    The consensus on the above-referenced thread seems to be that the Europeans think that it is better for the Americans to have their own names rather than copy European names. However, DC United is the MLS name I have always liked the best. I ripped off the graphic design for the youth indoor team I coached a few year ago and the players really liked it.

    So if FC stands for Football Club, what does DC stand for? This is fodder for the rivalry's forum I would think.
     
  13. mellon002

    mellon002 Member

    Jan 24, 2003
    Towson, MD
  14. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    At least it wasn't AC/DC. :rolleyes:

    Here's the thing - All you've gotta know is that DC United's name was chosen for much the same reason as Manchester United chose its name. It sounded good.
    http://www.redcafe.net/club/history/newton-heath/1901-1902.php3
     
  15. mellon002

    mellon002 Member

    Jan 24, 2003
    Towson, MD
    That's pretty cool. Except I think that the real name is Scum United.
     
  16. SABuffalo786

    SABuffalo786 New Member

    May 18, 2002
    Buffalo, New York
    QPR is short for Queen's Park Rangers. I'm not sure what the story is with Rusden and Diamonds. And Leigh RMI is the name of some British corporation, I think.
     
  17. kopiteinkc

    kopiteinkc Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 1, 2000
    Shawnee
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
  18. BannedInDC

    BannedInDC Member

    district of columbia

    district because though we (500,000 of us) pay federal taxes we are not a state and do not have the ultimate say in our own politics. this is possibly due to the fact we are a majority minority city. (thus both parties lie when it comes to dc).

    columbia (not colombia which is the country where carlos llamosa immigrated from and in which all citizens of age have the right to vote) from christopher columbus.

    DC from the sobriquet locals call the city

    one day it will/should be NC United (although it then might cause issues with North Carolina)]

    DC though might also stand for...

    dominion of congress
    defiant crackheads
    death from convey
     
  19. Lanky134

    Lanky134 New Member

    Oct 25, 1999
    134, 3, 6
    Aw, man. You're just begging for Lowecifer to break out that picture again, aren't you?
     
  20. Th4119

    Th4119 Member+

    Jul 26, 2001
    Annandale, VA
    Break it out! Break it out!

    :)
     
  21. eurojack

    eurojack Member

    Jun 29, 2001
    The selection of the original nazi-esque shield was interesting - very retro, which is considered cool nowadays. But then to revert to the 70's - 80's Firebird logo from the hoods of those hideous cars was ridiculous. 30s - 60s is retro "cool." 70s -90s is retro "suck."

    And as I like to say before every nightime home match: "Everybody have fun tonight, Everybody Wang Chung tonight."
     
  22. eurojack

    eurojack Member

    Jun 29, 2001
    Does anyone have pictures of the original Nike uniforms? If they were lik any other of the Nike unis that year they must have reallly sucked!

    Please, Please, Please find pictures! Or, at least, give a description.

    Thanks in advance
     
  23. mellon002

    mellon002 Member

    Jan 24, 2003
    Towson, MD
    Is this what you are looking for?

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  24. SABuffalo786

    SABuffalo786 New Member

    May 18, 2002
    Buffalo, New York
    No. Those are our first year Adidas kits. The ones they're looking for where never made. They were supposed to be made by Nike.
     
  25. mellon002

    mellon002 Member

    Jan 24, 2003
    Towson, MD
    Were they that bad?
     

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