When it rains, it Pores (r)

Discussion in 'College & Amateur Soccer' started by Sandon Mibut, Oct 24, 2004.

  1. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    I thought this merited its own thread - and its own cheezy title.

    Tulsa Jr. F, and All America candidate, Ryan Pore a goal and FIVE assists (three primary, two secondary) in the Golden Hurricanes 8-0 win over Evansville. Suffice to say, five assists is a school record.

    Man, that's a lot of goals to be a part of.

    Pore has been a very good goal scorer in his college career, scoring nine as a freshman, 20 last year and 12 goals the first 12 games this year. But, he only had three assists before this game and 10 his first two years of play so this is a quite a reversal of roles for him.

    The way this kid is scoring, I wouldn't be surprised if he got a P40 contract. His situation is similar to that of Jason Thompson, who secured a P40 deal after scoring a boatload of goals at a smaller program playing in the same conference.
     
  2. DesMoinesSoccerScene

    Sep 9, 2004
    Pore is the most dangerous player in the conference hands down, and arguably the most lethal in the country. He's definitely a one man wrecking crew, but in order to get a big contract he needs to put up more points against bigger name teams. By him being shutout against Creighton, Drake and SMU he may have hurt himself a little. Getting five assists in one game against a terrible Evansville side is still noteworthy for sure. Five assists against any team is still pretty freakin' good. I'm just saying it'd help his cause to score more goals or get more assists against teams like Creighton and SMU.

    One more note, Jason Thompson has found himself becoming a flop in the MLS. He was supposed to be a key contributor to the Dallas Burn when he was drafted before he blew out his knee. I believe he has blown it out twice now since leaving Eastern? Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that, because I'm not entirely sure. What made Thompson go to EIU anyway? I would say by going to Eastern it would be committing career suicide, but he played well and got out of there (smart move). Anyhow, Thompson is a huge disappointment as of now in the MLS because he hasn't even gotten into a game with DC yet (to my knowledge). Thompson was always a self-centered glory hog, so by seeing him not play I'm not heart-broken in anyway.
     
  3. thesoccerjock

    thesoccerjock New Member

    Jul 27, 2004
    I saw Pore against Creighton and he was invisible. The Jay defense lead by Petersen and Rodriguez completely and convincingly shut him down. He seems to really struggle when he's marked up tight by physical players. This does not bode well if he thinks he can play at the next level. To say he is the most dangerous player in the conference "hands down" and arguably the most lethal in the country is really a reach. You think that because he can rack up goals against weak teams makes him worthy of such high praise?
     
  4. CUgrad01

    CUgrad01 New Member

    Oct 20, 2004
    I agree with soccerjock. I was there too and he did not show me anything. We completely dominated Tulsa in that game. I think Creighton's forwards are more dangerous than Pore frankly. And it's too bad Kraus is out this year because this would make the Jays even more lethal.
     
  5. bravessoccer

    bravessoccer Member

    Sep 9, 2004
    Pore is a threat, no doubt, but he has a lot of trouble scoring against good sides. He scores against teams that haven't seen him or teams that are pretty average in the back. Granted, not all of his ineffectiveness is his fault (no Brown) and inconsistent midfield play.

    His Valley games
    Drake - 2/2 S/SOG - 0 G, 0 A
    Creighton - 4/0 S/SOG - 0 G, 0A
    WKU (last place) - 11/4 S/SOG - 3G, 0 A
    Vandy (T2nd to last) - 9/5 S/SOG - 2G, 0A
    SMU - 4/1 S/SOG - 0G, 0A
    SMS - 5/3 S/SOG - 1G, 1A
    Eville - 3/3 S/SOG - 1G, 5A (2 secondary)

    He has 6 league goals and 6 Assists. They have come in 4 matches against sides that are a combined 8-20-2 in league play.

    In the other three matches, against teams a combined 16-4-1 in the league, he has 0G, 0A on 10/3 S/SOG

    I would argue for several players that are more dominant in the league than Pore. There are several strikers in the league I'd take over him.
     
  6. CUgrad01

    CUgrad01 New Member

    Oct 20, 2004
    I come up with about 5 or 6 including one on your team! The stats above are quite telling. This boy is clearly over-rated.
     
  7. ukforunc86

    ukforunc86 New Member

    Sep 16, 2004
    London / Chapel Hill

    Holy COW ...he is not even the best player on the farm ...I mean Nebraska
     
  8. numerista

    numerista New Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    Of course, this "teams that haven't seen him" comment is a bit curious. Are you saying there's a book on how to defend Pore? If so, were Wisconsin, Penn State, and Wisconsin-Milwaukee all in the dark? Those aren't bad teams, and he scored two against each of them.

    Personally, I've only seen him play once, and I was very impressed with his off-the-ball running. If an opponent could shut down his service, I doubt he'd show much, but that doesn't make him a sub-par prospect.
     
  9. CUgrad01

    CUgrad01 New Member

    Oct 20, 2004

    huh?????? I think that was an attempt at humor. You might try a different spin with some thought behind it so intelligent folks can figure out what you are trying to say. Give it a shot. It's not difficult.
     
  10. ukforunc86

    ukforunc86 New Member

    Sep 16, 2004
    London / Chapel Hill

    OK you tell me ...I will not look it up...How many players on Creighton are from the farm...I mean Nebraska????
     
  11. CUgrad01

    CUgrad01 New Member

    Oct 20, 2004
    What's your point? Speak in english for a change.
     
  12. Rockhillman

    Rockhillman New Member

    May 9, 2004
    South Carolina
    CUgrad....I heard about Kraus being out for the year but never heard why or what happned. i saw he played the first match it seemed...but if you could let me know it'd be appreciated...i assume he's redshirting....thanks much obliged
     
  13. CUgrad01

    CUgrad01 New Member

    Oct 20, 2004
    I heard he broke his ankle. I assume he is redshirting since this happened well before the point in the season that players need to decide this.
     
  14. SC71

    SC71 Member

    May 30, 2004
    South Carolina
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    what is the verdict on Dave Golan. I always thought that he was a great guy, but a so-so evaluator of talent and coach.
     

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