When Greg is replaced - who takes his place?

Discussion in 'Columbus Crew' started by Raoul, Apr 19, 2004.

  1. Raoul

    Raoul New Member

    Sep 19, 1999
    Downtown Dublin
    I have no doubt that Greg is gone. Perhaps right after the LA Game, but certainly not long after. I hope he has the foresight to resign as I think he's a good man in a spot he can't recover from right now. He physically looked terrible during the KC game.

    What is the story with Ellinger. With no Olympics, could he be the man to save the day here? He knows most of the players and reportedly has their respect. He knows the town and situation. Great chance for him to be "The Savior of the Crew" if HSG can hire him from the USSF. He'll need the Pro coaching experience if he wants to move up form the kid ranks.
     
  2. 10 fan

    10 fan New Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    United States
    That's another good idea...we should try to get someone out of that US Soccer family. Arena did good, Sarachan, Bradley are doing well, Nowak (supposedly close to Arena, Sarachan, and Bradley) is doing well. Who does that leave? Ellinger? Rongen? Anyone's better than GA.
     
  3. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1) Murphy - Great talent evaluator, has the respect of the players and can hit the ground mid-season running.

    2) Ellinger - Somebody is going to hire him someday and get a good coach. Knows the US talent pool better than anybody. A good guy for the rebuilding job we are staring in the face.

    3) Harkes - Maybe hasn't paid enough dues but he'd sure as hell win some games or know the damn reason why. A winner.
     
  4. 10 fan

    10 fan New Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    United States
    A quick look at the US Soccer staff:
    Head Coach: Bruce Arena (Fairfax, Va.)
    Assistant Coach: Glenn Myernick (Denver)
    Assistant Coach: Curt Onalfo (Fairfax, Va.)
    Goalkeeper Coach: Milutin Soskic (Bakersfield, Calif.)

    any of them would do.
     
  5. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What on Earth makes you think Milutin Soskic would be a good. head coach for the Crew?
     
  6. Soccer Coach 333

    Soccer Coach 333 New Member

    Feb 19, 2002
    USA
    ......Bob Lilley....The guys been a winner at
    Hershey & Montreal in the A-League. Busch
    played for him before being drafted by the
    Crew.
     
  7. 10 fan

    10 fan New Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    United States
    Before about 10 min. ago, I had never heard of the guy. But he's got to be better than Andrulis.

    Take his name off the list, fine, Onalfo or Myernick would be great.
     
  8. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Obviously followed Olympic qualifying pretty closely, didn't you?

    The problem with hiring mid-season is that the pool can be limited as the other MLS assistants are off the block, as are most A-League coaches. (No MLS assistant has ever been hired to be head coach of another team mid-season.)

    There's always the college route, but very few are qualified and the ones that are have too much job security to give it up to come to MLS. Maybe Clark Hunt could once again make a run at his former college coach, Schellas Hyndmann.

    Having said all that, if you're hiring right now - and I have to think you will be - Ellinger would be the front-runner.
     
  9. 10 fan

    10 fan New Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    United States
    I sure did. As I said in my post above, all of the people under Bruce Arena seem to be doing pretty well. You think Mooch did bad in Qualifying? Imagine what Andrulis would have done with them. Lots of people are better options than Andrulis right now.
     
  10. Raoul

    Raoul New Member

    Sep 19, 1999
    Downtown Dublin
    Ellinger was with the Crew from part of '96 to '98 (as I remember). He was purportedly highly respected and well liked by the players and the community. He knows many of the current players from Nats Juniors and Olympics.

    Mooch already is someone elses castoff in MLS and would appear to be having only minor success at his current post. We need someone who's been the HC before, IMO. There's no time for OJT in this situation. We need someone who already knows what needs to be done and has no inbred loyalties to current players or staff (an outsider). Perhaps the A-league route would do, but no first timers as my first choice.


    I don't think Harkes would work right now. Too soon after his stint as a player here and too young for this task. We need someone with non MLS experience to get back the games HSG has given away while running Greg through the grinder. A brand new look would take at least one go through on the schedule for teams to compensate for the new coaches tactics.

    PLEASE end this, HSG. Greg knows and so does everyone else...
     
  11. myshap

    myshap Member

    Jun 19, 2002
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    That guy has my vote. Great coach. He knows how to organize a team with whatever is available to him and always comes up with a winning strategy.

    I think he decided to leave Montreal because he was thinking there would be some jobs open in MLS, but the top contenders Dallas, CLB, and LA all stood pat and DC never looked his way.

    Anyway, you all know what is going to happen don't you? Warzchya is the next Columbus Crew HC. Write it down, take a picture, I don't give a ******** you know it's true. The sad thing is Warzchya should be out on his ass with Andrulis when it happens.

    Who's the midfield coach? Warzchya. What part of this team can't seem to to get it's act together and doesn't have a cohesive plan? The midfield.

    I don't think it's any coincidence that as Warzchya was gaining more and more of Andrulis' ear in 2002 and Pisano was relegated to the NEM watch, the midfield play has gotten worse and worse.

    Good player and person, terrible coach IMO.
     
  12. NorwichBu

    NorwichBu Member

    Jan 9, 2002
    Columbus, OH
    I agree myshap. it was brought up last year quite a few times, but it's no coincidence that once warzycha was handed the reigns to the midfield at the expense of pisano, our play started to suffer. it's bordering on embarrasing now. seriously, how many long balls were sent downfield last game where cunningham and buddle had to jump up and chest to control. mcbride's not here folks, that Highway 1 BS won't work. the modern day professional soccer player has 2 feet; i think it'd be in our best interest to play balls from the midfield to one of them. especially when the folks you're passing to have the foot skills of buddle, cunningham, and/or scott. but WTF do i know, huh?
     
  13. Soccer Coach 333

    Soccer Coach 333 New Member

    Feb 19, 2002
    USA
    ..Completely agree wth Myshap's
    assessment. Warzchya as head coach
    would be the final nail in the coffin.

    ..Bring in Lilley!
     
  14. Eggy

    Eggy New Member

    May 28, 1999
    CBUS
    I'll go for this Bob Lilley.

    Anything but Warzycha.
     
  15. melloyello

    melloyello Member

    Dec 19, 2000
    Columbus
    Chris Ramsey
     
  16. DRWCrew

    DRWCrew Member

    Aug 11, 2003
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It could be that roaming gnome from Travelocity (I think its Travelocity) and we would be better off.
     
  17. Chris_Bailey

    Chris_Bailey Member+

    Feb 28, 2000
    Chicago
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Not a bad choice, I'd take either him or Denis Hamlett:

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    Born in Puerto Limon, Costa Rica, Denis Hamlett, the 1996 Colorado Rapids BIC Tough Defender of the Year, was an assistant coach for the Chicago Fire in its inaugural season. He has split his time between assisting the coaches, scouting players and working in the front office. Hamlett, also a member of the community relations department, has helped organize activities in the community, including player appearances.

    After the 1999 MLS season, Hamlett served as the assistant coach during the U.S. Project-40's visit to Portugal. The team played in four games while in Portugal, and Hamlett helped Project-40 leave Portugal with a 2-2 record.

    Prior to joining Colorado, the bilingual Hamlett was an all-star in the Continental Indoor Soccer League (CISL) with the Anaheim Splash. He has also played in the NPSL with the Harrisburg Heat, and the APSL (now A-League) with the Ft. Lauderdale Strikers. Hamlett retired from soccer after the 1996 MLS season after suffering a stroke during the 1997 preseason.

    Hamlett, an "A" licensed staff coach, moved to the U.S. from Costa Rica when he was 10 years old. He played his college soccer at George Mason University in Washington, D.C. and currently resides in Chicago.

    - He's was also considered for the DC opening, as well. And hey, him and Scott would "gel" instantly!
     
  18. Zak

    Zak Member

    Feb 18, 2002
    Massive Club
    Zak is going to get the job.
     
  19. melloyello

    melloyello Member

    Dec 19, 2000
    Columbus
    very good as well. i say they completely clean house (sans murphey) starting with Jim Smith. Bring in Ramsey or Hamlett.
    adding hamlett would bring to 3 the total number of bilingual persons employed by the crew.
     
  20. Eggy

    Eggy New Member

    May 28, 1999
    CBUS
    That guy is smiling. He definately doesn't get the job.
     
  21. Eggy

    Eggy New Member

    May 28, 1999
    CBUS
    No Smiling

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  22. Eggy

    Eggy New Member

    May 28, 1999
    CBUS
    No Smiling

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  23. Eggy

    Eggy New Member

    May 28, 1999
    CBUS
    Do Not Smile

    Absolutly

    Positively

    NO FCUKING SMILING :mad:
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  24. Hamburgler03

    Hamburgler03 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 31, 2000
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would like the hire to come outside of the current organization. The problem that The Crew has had since its inception:

    1. Hire bad coach who doesn't lead the team to victory.
    2. Fire bad coach, hire current team assistant coach as interim.
    3. Interim assistant coach is a breath of fresh air to players who play better for him the first year. Organization hires him.
    4. Coach still has same philosophy as old bad coach and nothing changes.
    5. Organization waits until the wrong time and then repeats from step 1.

    Please hire someone outside of the current organization!
     
  25. Viking64

    Viking64 Member

    Feb 11, 1999
    Tarheel State
    Boro Sucevic

    from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinal online
    ""He (Sucevic) has earned the right to be considered," said Wilt, .... "The coaching job Boro did this year was spectacular. Without hardly any forwards at the end of the year, he had his team playing very intelligent soccer. He showed his ability to be a tactician."

    The Rampage finished with a 21-8-7 overall record in 2002, including a U.S. Open Cup third-round victory over the Fire. After forwards Digital Takawira and Ranko Golijanin were lost to injury, Sucevic adopted a 3-6-1 formation in the playoffs.

    Sucevic's four-year record with the Rampage is 76-36-12."
    Currently he's coaching Director in a Milwaukee suburb with a local soccer association.
     

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