When Adults Run Amok

Discussion in 'Soccer Boots' started by Poose, Sep 9, 2002.

  1. Poose

    Poose New Member

    Mar 17, 2001
    My daughter had her first game of the season Saturday in the Arlington select league. My wife commented on her not wearing those little wraps that girls wear on their sleeves to keep their sleeves pulled up.

    My daughter explained that those arm wraps had been banned by the league because they are not "professional" looking". Any player wearing one will get an automatic yellow card!

    One team decided to circumvent the rule by wearing a sleeveless jersey.
     
  2. chalkheels

    chalkheels New Member

    Jun 13, 2002
    Virginia
    I can back this up as well. Played in the coed national tournament a couple of weeks ago and the refs were sending women off the field if they even pulled their sleeves up. Seems awfully petty.
     
  3. Becks7

    Becks7 Member

    Dec 6, 2000
    Hong Kong
    I think that the USSF shoudl worry about more important things rather then how players look!!!

    I heard that high school players aren't allowed to wear white tape unless they are wearing white socks. It's silly
     
  4. empennage

    empennage Member

    Jan 4, 2001
    Phoenix, AZ
    Seems to me a yellow card is not the appropriate action if a referee is trying to enforce the rule. Why not just prevent that player from playing until their uniform conforms with the LOTG?
     
  5. Chetmonkey4000

    Chetmonkey4000 New Member

    Sep 1, 2002
    Chicago
    haha, last year in one of my high school games, almost the entire team had white tape on red socks (our uniform was about half red half white)...the ref made us all take it off...he also told us we weren't allowed to have sliding shorts a different color, and we couldn't have sweet spots on our shoes if they were not the primary color...he wuz crazy...so the whole game our shinguards were falling down, our laces were coming undone, and we had so many cuts on our thighs from sliding, it was terrible...if the ref had concentrated more on the game than the uniforms, maybe we wouldn't have had such a bad game...i think it psyched us all out and we lost (he never told the other team, who were the home team, these rules)
     
  6. fuxer

    fuxer New Member

    Feb 5, 2000
    ????

    i am from germany and i am wondering about this discussion. this is one of the most stupid things i ever heard. you are all playing amateuer soccer right? so why do you have to look like profesionells?

    i would like to see some pictures how the us kids look like while playing soccer :)
    do you can give me a link for some pictures.
    thank you and greets from germany
     
  7. Becks7

    Becks7 Member

    Dec 6, 2000
    Hong Kong
    But the thing is, professionals do some of the things these amateurs aren't allowed to do!
     
  8. nsa

    nsa Member+

    New England Revolution
    United States
    Feb 22, 1999
    Notboston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Massachusetts Youth Soccer website has several areas with pics from recent tournaments.

    Actually, FIFA has recently announced a ban on sleeveless jerseys. US Soccer has appealed this rule. USSF has told referees not to enforce the ban, but sleeveless jerseys should be noted in the match report.

    Putting on my referee hat for a moment (yes, I know, referees are not supposed to wear a hat ;) ), I'd have to say that being a "fashion cop" is one of the least enjoyable and most disruptive activities that I perform. The leagues hire the referees and tell the referees what the standards are for the league. If the players and parents are unhappy about the rules then they should ask the league to change the rules. Getting PO'd at the referee does nobody any good. I don't like the rules, but if I don't enforce them then I will not have a job.
    Would the referee have allowed the white tape on white socks? Sounds like this guy was going overboard on the conflicting colours issue. He forgot Law 18 - Common Sense.
    Guten tag, fuxer. Wo wohnen Sie?
     
  9. chalkheels

    chalkheels New Member

    Jun 13, 2002
    Virginia
    Have you heard about this one? A couple of weeks ago I had refs that were carding player for calling out things like "my ball" or "I go" because they were not team specific. The ref wanted us to start calling out "Jen's ball" or "Mark is on" instead to eliminate confusion between teams. Someone on my team even said that this rule has been around in the high schools for a while now. Just ridiculous.
     
  10. Becks7

    Becks7 Member

    Dec 6, 2000
    Hong Kong
    yah that rules been around for a few years
     
  11. nicodemus

    nicodemus Member+

    Sep 3, 2001
    Cidade Mágica
    Club:
    PAOK Saloniki
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm convinced the people that cook these rules up must have NOTHING better to do. When I was in high school, we played soccer in the spring because we used the same field as the football team. The season would start in February, but would end in May. I live in the south and it is usually cold and wet in February, but by the end of the season it is hotter than fire. Our school wouldn't buy us both longsleeve and shortsleeve jerseys. The referees wouldn't let anyone wear a longsleeve shirt under the jersey unless the entire roster had them. Needless to say, we would often be running around in 30 or 40 degree weather in shortsleeves. You think they'd be more worried about people not getting sick than they would if everyone matches 100% instead of 98%.

    I've run into this everywhere and can't make any sense out of it. The only place they don't care is in our indoor league...eventhough we have a regulation indoor soccer field that meets all the MISL specs!

    Madness.
     
  12. fuxer

    fuxer New Member

    Feb 5, 2000
    now it is getting funny :)
    why do the refs not use the fifa rules?



    i life in mainz and support mainz05.
    there are playing 2 americans that is why i look around in this forum.
     
  13. hambone

    hambone New Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    I think the uniform rules are bs, but calling ur name out and the ball is a good rule.

    Saying 'my ball' is just like calling for the ball when the other team has possession, it is unsportsmanlike. It's not like it takes much more effort to say your name anyways.
     
  14. Chetmonkey4000

    Chetmonkey4000 New Member

    Sep 1, 2002
    Chicago
    in a reply to one post, the ref would have let us have white socks on w/ white tape, but we couldn't change it cuz the other team was all white, and we were all red, and they made a big deal about that...in reply to the calling "so and sos ball" thats really really really pointless, someone would forget that sometime and get carded...what if they forget twice...i can picture an active player who would most likely play all 90 get 2 yellows because he/she says "you go" or "my ball", or "i got man" seriously...who wants to speak in 3rd person
     
  15. hambone

    hambone New Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    If you do it in practice you get used to it quickly, I used to think it was stupid but now it is 2nd nature. It is only called if it is in a play where the ball is in question, and the other team can't tell u are not on there team. If your team is clearly posessing the ball they never call it. Also, you get at least 1 or 2 verbal warnings before you get a card.
     
  16. fuxer

    fuxer New Member

    Feb 5, 2000
    come on

    this rule is stupid.
    shout out my ball, i am free or here when the oher team has the ball is not sportsmanlike but hey, if the other payer is so stupid to give you the ball because you say my ball the game must go on.

    and if this player do this wrong pass twice a game the couch should take him from the field because he is to stupid for this game.

    in germany you can annoy the other team with words like you want. and if the opponent player give you the ball because of words everyone is laughing and the game goes on.
     
  17. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    > why do the refs not use the fifa rules?

    It is somewhat based on FIFA rules. You cannot use words that fool the other team into thinking you are one of them (like, say, getting behind an opponent and saying "Drop"). But I certainly agree that carding neutral calls is just stupid.
     
  18. CaCTuS[14DT]

    CaCTuS[14DT] Red Card

    Apr 2, 2000
    question...why do girls wear those thing? I mean, why the sleeveless trend? I honestly want to know.
     
  19. Beasley7

    Beasley7 New Member

    Jul 12, 2002
    Fort Wayne, IN
    http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.co...031768865france_sept_11_world_reax_nce103.jpg

    Look at all the white tape on them...guess its the discresion of the ref.

    on the calling for the ball and so on subject, i have never heard anything so crazy in my life. Here in old Fort Wayne the refs that i have had are terrible. There are only a few who are decent. The rules are always different from ref to ref. Some let us sub on the other teams throw, some don't. Yesturday one even let the other team sub on a free kick. Lots of different ways of reffing. I am going to take the class so i can find out what they really teach these guys.


    p.s. i can't remember the code for pics, so could someone post it for ever!!!!!
     
  20. Becks7

    Becks7 Member

    Dec 6, 2000
    Hong Kong
    i've seen in done in volleyball too...i do it sometimes when it's really hot out.
     
  21. fuxer

    fuxer New Member

    Feb 5, 2000
    ??????

    i play soccer since 25 years now and i never heard that i am not allowed to say what i want. the only thing what is not allowed is to talk dirty to the ref.

    and i never read something about that in the rule book.

    did you ever saw a game where a player got a yellow card because of saying something during the game? í think not.
     
  22. fuxer

    fuxer New Member

    Feb 5, 2000
    sorry but i wanted to know it :)

    this is all i found in the law:

    A player is cautioned and shown the yellow
    card if he commits any of the following
    seven offences:

    1. is guilty of unsporting behaviour
    2. shows dissent by word or action
    3. persistently infringes the Laws of the
    Game
    4. delays the restart of play
    5. fails to respect the required distance
    when play is restarted with a corner kick
    or free kick
    6. enters or re-enters the field of play
    without the referee’s permission
    7. deliberately leaves the field of play
    without the referee’s permission
     
  23. nsa

    nsa Member+

    New England Revolution
    United States
    Feb 22, 1999
    Notboston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is the catch-all card. Basically anything that pisses off the referee fits under this category. The hard tackle, the shout to distract another player, failing to correct a uniform issue, ...

    Yes, I know that the hard tackle does not equate to an error in the choice of clothing. Unfortunately some referees do not.

    fuxer and others may not know that high school matches in the USA are referee'd under the rules established by the "National Federation" specifically for high school (and some college play). Most youth soccer outside of high school is referee'd according to the FIFA Laws of the Game, modified for youth play. There are not many differences, but the big ones occur in the timekeeping and cautions. Most adult soccer is FIFA LOTG, too.

    I have been certified for both USSF (FIFA) and NF. I much prefer USSF matches, especially the adult games since they are likely to leave their parents at home. :)
     
  24. Greyhnd00

    Greyhnd00 New Member

    Jan 17, 2000
    Rediculously far nor
    Re: ??????

    I LOVE when people start a sentence with "I have played the game for 25 years" ..........guess what I played for 27 years before I read law 12..........in the reff certification course.....You might try it.
     
  25. fuxer

    fuxer New Member

    Feb 5, 2000
    Re: Re: ??????

    sorry, i don´t want to hype myself. i want to say that i am used to play soccer and i never heard something like that. i know the law12.

    the law 1. is guilty of unsporting behaviour
    is not very exactly. so it seems to me that the refs in different countrys make different calls. thats interesting for me.

    you can believe me if i say that here we don´t know this calls. we are getting used to say things during the game.

    sorry if you understood this wrong but my english is not so good and i don´t know enough words to say what i want to.
     

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