WHEELOCK: MLS keeps scoring nutty nickname own goals

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Wallydrag, Jul 9, 2004.

  1. Wallydrag

    Wallydrag BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 24, 2002
    Oklahoma City
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://msn.foxsports.com/story/2564140

    I'm sure someone did and I'm sure old Sean will be creaming his shorts with a name like FC Dallas.
     
  2. Treetaliano

    Treetaliano Member

    Jun 29, 2002
    Charlotte, NC
    wheelock is a tool. Awful.
     
  3. Old Man!

    Old Man! BigSoccer Supporter

    Chicago Fire SC
    Mar 11, 2000
    I actually agree with him in the sentiment of the message. Where a strong sense of pro soccer with respects to a name exists in a city, MLS should make the attempt to identify with that name and history. I only hope Adrian Hanauer in Seattle reads that article and realizes the folly it would be to not call a Seattle MLS club, '"Sounders". To not satisfy the diehards, your core audience, is a huge, HUGE error, that will cost the team dearly.

    In a city like SLC, there is no strong association with soccer and any particular name. You might make an argument for the Utah Blitzz, but as Wheelock writes, DC United was a far better choice than Washington Diplomats. Common sense must rule the day with regards to MLS expansion names so as not to repeat the mistakes of Burn, Mutiny and Clash. I'm not sure how new names are being chosen for this round, but I belive that the uniform suppliers from 1996 had a hand in the name selection. Perhaps a poll on MLSnet.com with say, 5 different names could be used as some sort of starting point to gauge the popularity of names being tossed about in MLS HQ. Who better to ask than the soccer diehards themselves?
     
  4. CUS

    CUS New Member

    Apr 20, 2000
    To be honest, even if it were available, I am glad that the Chicago franchise did NOT pick 'The Sting'. To me, The Sting is just a name from my youth and the same feeling for the team wouldn't just happen all over again just because the name is the same. I don't think that there would be any sort of automagic legitimacy in selected any previously used name.

    [aside]I am damn glad Nike's preferred name for Chicago--Rhythm--was rejected.[/aside]

    And WRT the Cosmos, I don't think Time Warner (or whoever owns the name now) is selling at any price.
     
  5. krolpolski

    krolpolski Member+

     
  6. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    As a matter of conjecture, i think if the Fire did originally go with the Sting name and had the same field and fan success in the first season people would feel the same way as they do about the current image. But it wasn't available, and we did better probably.
     
  7. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Never mind that it's a crummy name.

    Yeah, "Burn" is even worse, but if you're going to go through all the trouble of changing the name, how about picking a good one? Call me wacky and provincial, but I would've rather that they had gone with a traditional American-style team name. You know, the name of the city followed by some tangible plural object.

    Personally, I was partial to Dallas Diablos, but that's just me. They could've even kept the same colors that they have had since 1996 and it would've been perfectly suited for the name.
     
  8. Rommul

    Rommul Member

    Aug 26, 2003
    NYC
    This is the first time I didn't enjoy reading one of wheelocks articles.
     
  9. Rommul

    Rommul Member

    Aug 26, 2003
    NYC
    Can some one show me where his old articles are.
     
  10. greenbill

    greenbill New Member

    Apr 30, 2003
    York, PA
    That would be an awesome fit, especially since the supporters group is named "Inferno"!
     
  11. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    At my house they are filed away in the appropriate place....the trash can.
     
  12. TomEaton

    TomEaton Member

    Mar 5, 2000
    Champaign, IL
    Yes, it would have been an interesting article...in 1996!
     
  13. swedcrip34

    swedcrip34 New Member

    Mar 17, 2004
    Hasn't he heard of FC Dallas. Thought his job was to cover MLS? Am I wrong (Is this a small hobby of his with his attention dedicated to some other league/sport)? Unbelievable. Maybe he wrote this a while back, but still.
     
  14. Bajoro

    Bajoro Member+

    Sep 10, 2000
    The Inland Empire
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not bad at all. Hip and Latin-friendly all in one.
     
  15. The Cadaver

    The Cadaver It's very quiet here.

    Oct 24, 2000
    La Cañada, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I tend to roll them onto cardboard spools and hang them in the appropriate room for use at the appropriate time.
     
  16. Calexico77

    Calexico77 Member

    Sep 19, 2003
    Mid-City LA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I dig on "Diablos". That way you could keep the Brimstone Cup without missing a beat.

    "F.C. Dallas" is such a bad idea it's a cliche.
     
  17. Rommul

    Rommul Member

    Aug 26, 2003
    NYC
    Not to mention that so few english language teams put the name FC in front and almost always at the back ie Dallas FC.
     
  18. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was an enjoyable enough article.

    Among other things, Wheelock made a good point about how some MLS teams should've originally gone with the city's NASL team name, while others were better off with a new team name (the San Jose MLS team would've been called the "Earthquakes" from Day One if it wasn't for a certain uniform supplier - thank goodness for the expansion Chicago front-office's refusal several years later to become the "Chicago Rhythm").

    As you've stated, hopefully common sense will prevail in the naming of the expansion teams, simply picking the best name whether it's the city's NASL name or a new name. I also agree that if Seattle gets an expansion team or the current Sounders get promoted into MLS, that they should no doubt keep the "Seattle Sounders" team name.


    -G
     
  19. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One little mistake in the article, though:


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    Instead of picking a name rich in history the Big Apple's new MLS franchise chose the most unwieldy name in the Cosmos! (Allsport UK / GettyImages)


    All this time, I thought that the MLS franchise there was called the MetroStars. :eek:


    -G
     
  20. Etienne_72772

    Etienne_72772 Member+

    Oct 14, 1999
    And since the trophy between the Fire and the Dallas team is called the "Brimstone Cup", so it would still fit. I like Diablos.

    Edit: Whoops--just saw that someone posted this same sentiment before me.
     
  21. Snarf

    Snarf Member

    Oct 9, 2003
    Eagle Mountain, UT
    I'm not sure if I understood you correctly, or if you misunderstood the caption to that photo, but he was saying that the team name 'New York/New Jersey MetroStars was the most unwieldy name around, with a little wordplay with the Cosmos name that he believes they should have gone with instead. He wasn't saying they chose the name Cosmos, which is unwieldy.

    That is what you were saying right? Or was I just misreading you. Do I need to turn up the sarcasmo-meter, or was I right?
     
  22. United_Caps_Fan

    United_Caps_Fan New Member

    Apr 25, 2004
    Alexandria,VA 134/35
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    110% SPOT ON! I could not agree more. D.C. United is probably the single BEST name in MLS, and most definately was in 1996, along with having the best kits back then.


    I remember the "DIPS" when I was a kid, and did go to some of thier games. They were my local team so of course I liked them. However, I always HATED that name, espeically in the 3 years where they wore this total disaster of a kit.


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    I mean, c'mon. Really. DIPS? It wasnt bad enough that DIPS was the nickname, but they HAD to go and put it not just on the jersey, but literlly cover it with it. How embarassing. "DIPS"????????????????? One of the worst names in the history of soccer in the United States as far as I am concerend. Hell, its even worse than that old ECHL team in Macon GA, the Macon Whoopee. At least that was kind of funny. Im sure you all understand my point of view on "DIPS". I suppose though, it was a great, gimicky, yet stealthy way for Adidas to draw attention to thier logo by using it as the dot on the I. Just an awful kit to go with an awful name.

    I thank the powers that be every day that we were lucky enough to have been given another pro soccer team here in Washington, and that its name/ identity that not only fits the city, but is simply a great, traditional soccer club name. The ONLY thing I might have done differently would have been to,
    A. Take a page from the dips history, and use Red White and Blue as the colors ( the dips kits from the first season were actually very nice) or B. Use Red and White only, as those are Wasington D.C.'s colors. But they did Red and Black, and thats fine, very small concession to make when I consider what disaster could have been in 1996.

    I also would have stuck with the first logo, but the current one is good too. Very happy that its a shield either way. I just liked the eagle holding 3 soccer balls representing DC/MD/VA all being "United" if you will. But again, I digress, I will not complain as I feel very lucky with what we have. Thank GOD KP had the balls to stand up to big companies and say NO WAY, and got us nice kits to start with, unlike the rest of MLS back then.


    Personally, im glad they decided to go with what they have now. I like the name "Fire", and I like the logo system/ colors...etc.
     
  23. SoccerEsq

    SoccerEsq Member

    Aug 28, 2000
    Maryland SoccerPlexish
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Dips"? Could be worse... you could be a men's soccer team from LA known as the "Gals". That might work in the WUSA, but MLS?
     
  24. Ted Cikowski

    Ted Cikowski Red Card

    May 31, 2000
    FC Dallas is a great name.
     
  25. Khansingh

    Khansingh New Member

    Jan 8, 2002
    The Luton Palace
    Maybe Wheelock isn't a complete tool afterall. I've never heard a more appropriate description of the New York/ New Jersey MetroStars moniker than unwieldy, even if they dropped "New York/ New Jersey," which is possibly even dumber. I can think of an explanation for every name in MLS. But what is a MetroStar?
     

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