What's the word on Convey's passport situation? [-R- poss.]

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Knave, Nov 14, 2002.

  1. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    I'd really like to know what Convey's passport situation is. I understand that it didn't arrive in time for him to play in the first game. So is it on its way? Is it lost in the mail? Did USSF screw up? (Who shall we blame?) I don't know if there's really any information about this anywhere but if you've got it I'd love to know it.

    Thanks,
     
  2. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Screw it, Knave - do it just like the old days when he was at United and blame Thomas Rongen!!!

    Seriously, for this gaffe there is absolutely NOOO excuse. And, it's not like the Federation shouldn't know about this little regulation.

    We just hosted the Women's Gold Cup; we host the Men's Gold Cup every 2 years going back to 1991; we hosted U17 qualifying in St. Louis last year; we hosted Olympic qualifying in 2000; we hosted the Women's World Cup in 1999; we hosted the Olympic soccer tournaments in 1996; we hosted the 1994 World Cup and since then we've had 16 World Cup qualifers here in the US.

    It ain't like we don't have experience hosting FIFA-sanctioned matches!

    I mean, the players have been here since November 4 - there should have been an administrator who collected each player's passport LAST WEEK and then had the missing ones - apparently back-up 'keeper Clint Baumstark didn't have his passport either, which could have been quite a dicey situation had Cronin been hurt - FedEx-ed to Charleston so that they arrived DAYS AGO!!!!

    Un-frikkin-believable. Had this fisaco cost the US some points, we'd have never heard the end of this, and for good reason.
     
  3. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    !NEGNOR ERIF

    :)
     
  4. GoDC

    GoDC Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Hamilton, VA
    That is so f'ed up.
     
  5. Jose L. Couso

    Jose L. Couso New Member

    Jul 31, 2000
    Arlington, VA
    :D
     
  6. Red&Black

    Red&Black Member+

    Aug 30, 2001
    Lot 8
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Burkina Faso
    poor administration in the USSF? i simply don't believe it.
     
  7. ignatz

    ignatz New Member

    Jun 3, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Whoever was responsible for this should be fired -- right now.
     
  8. JBG - Bribe Taker

    Mar 17, 2000
    Mt. Pleasant, SC
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Article in today's paper had some more info on the subject, and apparently Convey isn't the only one with passport problems:

    http://www.charleston.net/pub/sports/sportslede/14u20.htm

    Excerpt: "...The U.S. side had to contend with unsettling news less than an hour
    before the match when team captain Bobby Convey, who was expected
    to dictate the team's pace of play, was ruled ineligible when his
    passport did not arrive from his house in Washington, D.C. CONCACAF
    requires players to have a passport to prove their age.
    "It was sent last Wednesday and it just isn't here yet," said Convey,
    a three-year veteran of D.C. United of Major League Soccer. "We talked
    with the people and they said a birth certificate would be fine. ... Then
    20 minutes before the game they wouldn't let me play.
    "It's really unfortunate. I feel like I let my team down."
    U.S. Soccer will try to get Convey a replacement passport today in
    Charleston.
    Backup goalkeeper Clint Baumstark also is trying to sort out a
    passport problem. ..."
     
  9. Topo

    Topo Member

    Feb 15, 2001
    Maybe they should carry their passports with them instead of sending them in the mail.

    Or were they waiting on a renewal?
     
  10. Footer Phooter

    Jul 23, 2000
    Falls Church, VA



    Yea, it's not tough to get a passport in a day :rolleyes:
     
  11. RMDad

    RMDad New Member

    Nov 15, 2001
    Fredericksburg, Va.
    You can get a passport in a day at the K Street office, if you can show immediate need. Or at least you could pre-9/11.
    Mark
     
  12. NASL Fan

    NASL Fan Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Los Angeles, USA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sounds like the head of a Fed Ex guy will roll. Or maybe no one.

    Some official from US Soccer probably asked Convey when he arrived in South Carolina, "Where's your passport?"

    "Passport, I need a passport?" Convey says. "But we're in the States."

    "Yeah, FIFA says you need a passport to play."

    "But I left it at home."

    "No problem, we'll just have it Fed Exed."

    So they have it Fed Exed to the place where they're training (I'm guessing) and they guy who gets it is some flunkie who sweeps the floors. He says: "Bobby Convey? There ain't no Bobby Convey working here." So Fed Ex sends it back to DC.

    Cue sit com laugh-track...
     
  13. Footer Phooter

    Jul 23, 2000
    Falls Church, VA

    Really, I didn't know that. I thought the "expedite" option still took 14 days. I'll file that one away.
     
  14. NASL Fan

    NASL Fan Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Los Angeles, USA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, I was in the US embassy in Argentina for some paperwork and sat next to a guy who was getting a replacement in just a few hours after losing his passport at his hotel. He needed it to fly that evening. It can be done.
     
  15. metroflip73

    metroflip73 Member

    Mar 3, 2000
    NYC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Expedite works. I wouldn't have gone to Korea without writing the word "EXPEDITE" on the envelope in huge black letters.
     
  16. bmurphyfl

    bmurphyfl Member

    Jun 10, 2000
    VT
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is it possible that whoever was mailing it from DC didn't send it overnight because they figured that they had a full week to get it there?

    Regardless, this is a stupid and embarassing mix-up. Convey has to take some of the blame himself too. If you are a professional and international soccer player, you need to understand that your passport goes with you everywhere. USSF should have someone double-checking the players as a safeguard but it starts with Convey.

    Murf
     
  17. Red&Black

    Red&Black Member+

    Aug 30, 2001
    Lot 8
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Burkina Faso
    embarassingly, i have gotten a "same day" passport twice.
     
  18. Kenobi

    Kenobi Member

    Jul 11, 1999
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You went to Korea in an envelope? :D
     
  19. Mikey mouse

    Mikey mouse Member

    Jul 27, 1999
    Charleston, SC
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At the press conference last night, Bobby said he thought his passport had expired and according to FIFA, they said his birth certificate would suffice for eligiblity to play. After arriving down here someone from his house phoned him and told him his passport wasn't expired and that they sent it 2nd day priority mail. Unfortunatnely for him, it hadn't arrived before the matche. Then about 30 minutes before the match he was told his birth certificate wasn't good enough and he would be ineligible by FIFA officals. He said he wasn't sure why it hadn't arrived, he thought it might be because of the holiday weekend and was hoping to get replacemnet one today from a passport office here in South Carolina.

    He also said he felt he had let the team down and felt bad about what was happening.

    I feel it was a bit his fault, a bit the fault of who ever sent it in the mail and not with an overnight service, and a bit of faulty information from FIFA.

    Mikey
     
  20. Jerlon

    Jerlon Member

    Aug 29, 2001
    Western NY
    It's now taken care of and Bobby is set to play vs. El Salvador on Friday.
     
  21. Quaker

    Quaker Member+

    FC Dallas
    Apr 19, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interestingly, a similar thing happened to Joe Cannon earlier this year. In the CONCACAF Champions Cup return leg against Pachuca at Spartan Stadium, Jon Conway played instead of the regular Quakes keeper because Joe had forgotten to bring his passport.
     
  22. nancyb

    nancyb Member

    Jun 30, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Geez, when my mother-in-law forgot her passport when we went to the Dominican Republic, some sweet talking and a few greenbacks took care of the problem, no sweat.
     
  23. Jerlon

    Jerlon Member

    Aug 29, 2001
    Western NY
    My Name

    In a post a few up from this under my name 'JerLon' it says that all is good with Convey and he is ready to go. Interestingly enough, I didn't post it. I may have left my name in a computer in my hotel and someone after me (alot of soccer fans here in the hotel using big soccer) probably posted it. What I would like to know is, who is it, and how do they know?
     
  24. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer New Member

    Sep 3, 1999
    How do you forget your friggin' passport, especially when you know it's going to be needed?
     
  25. davide

    davide Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    Baumstark?

    Any updates on Baumstark's passport problems?

    Is he going to get his passport problems straightened out before the El Salvador game?

    I think he's playing for UAB tonight.
     

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