What's Perez Worth?

I'll throw in 80K, but in the games when I wouldn't sub him in, he'd have to go around during the last 20 minutes and sell beers to us so that he's at least doing something productive. He'd also have to wear a hat that says, "My people sell your people cocaine" just for the fvck of it.

 

Not to cry "pity" for him, but just to provide a little different perspective...

Perez is from a poor community in Columbia. He donates his time and money to help his village back home. Many of them do not sell drugs, and are just trying to get by. When many small homes burned-down recently, Perez took-up a collection of gently-used clothing to bring home with him at Christmas. He brought many pounds of clothing & shoes, plus his dollars with him. I admire him for this. I can't picture some of the higher-paid MLS guys doing this with their time and money. Can you picture Clint Mathis giving-up his beer fund for the less fortunate?

Of course this doesn't decide what his salary should be, but I thought I'd let you know that he doesn't take his salary and spend it on a sprawling estate on the golf course in New Albany.

 

That is a decent point about a decent guy. However, pay should only be determined by the on-field and team contributions made. Pay should not be determined by how much charity work they do.

If I was really concerned about the charity work he does, I would pay the $12 a game to poor communities he helps in South America rather than seeing the Crew play.

 

kaiser kraut (his quote)

"I'll throw in 80K, but in the games when I wouldn't sub him in, he'd have to go around during the last 20 minutes and sell beers to us so that he's at least doing something productive. He'd also have to wear a hat that says, "My people sell your people cocaine" just for the fvck of it."

You are an idot dude!

From your post, I can tell you know very little about soccer and even less about nationalities.

Go fall in a hole!

 

The article said he was close to obtaining a green card.

 

So you are saying you would pay Perez more than 80k?!? Even if he is obtaining his Green Card, Perez is not worth more than 80k to the Crew.

 

Nice story....who gives a fvck?

 

would we have any jobs off the field for him?? Of course, if he can take a pay cut and get a green card, that helps it out. He's an SI, on the bench in favor of last year's ROY and that shouldn't equal max salary.

If we can give jobs to lapper and yeagley, surely there's something for perez.

and what MLS players can afford a golf course house in New Albany?

 

Speaking of idiots, you obviously have no idea what sarcasm, irony, or humor are, do you? Your level of humor probably doesn't extend beyond fart and dick jokes.

As for not knowing anything about soccer or nationalities, how are you gonna back that one up pal? As already stated, you disagree with paying him 80K? Is that too much? Or do you think he deserves a much higher salary for warming our bench and pitching in occasionaly? As for nationalities, well, he's from Columbia isn't he? I wasn't saying he's a drug dealer or anything, just playing off of the irony that beer vendors always wear dumb crap. Or are you only 12 and haven't looked at beer yet?

You can try and slam me if you want, but I only will let a few people get away with it (eg. Eggy, Bill, etc.) you are not that privledged. I'm just retorting to your trolling, so don't get back on my case.

To the rest of you guys out there, I apologize if my humor was ill founded. I was unaware of his work in Columbia or the specific details of all that. Thanks for letting me know. It was just a joke folks.

I'll head this back in the right direction for disrupting it enough already:

1. Unless there is reason to believe that Perez is going to get more PT than last year, then I say 100K is still too much. He's a good untility off the bench, esp. since Martino might get a lot of abuse and need to come out.
2. If he gets a GC, then that helps his case a lot, but that also means other teams might try to pick him up from us if we go too low on the deal.
3. Worst case scenario is that we'll waive him, nobody will pick him up, and we'll resign him at the price we want...
4. I don't think we could get him a secondary job at the stadium, no matter how much he tailgates before the games (I've seen it). He could maybe get some publicity money for doing TV spots or Spanish radio/TV/news stuff. Could be a source of cash.

 

I think everybody got the joke OK, man.

Not your fault this little weenie "cheriffe" has something jammed sideways up his anus.

 

what?

 

I believe it was this last summer when we were playing the Rapids. There was a group of Columbian fans down by the trees having a big tailgate party. Probably cuz Perez and Valderama were there. Anyway, after a bit, somebody pointed out to me that Perez was hanging out with them. Taking a look, he was certainly over there having a good time. I can't remember if he played that game or not, but I just remember thinking how wonderful it is to see our players seriously preparing for the game.

 

I remember this. It was the first day that V-Army sold tickets under the trees.

Perez played 90 minutes, final score was 1-1, our goal by Dante Washington, unassisted.

http://mlsnet.com/games/02/0720colclb.html

 

I do, you self important little pimp. Has your heart frozen over this winter or do you appreciate thug players more?

Thanks for the background, LUD.

Returning to the program (apologies)

I have no idea what The salary would be, but he adds a tremendous spark on offense when he comes in as a sub. He even played some excellent D in the playoffs and added some needed offensive half ball control when we had the lead. I don't think he can be a 28+ game starter, but he adds a lot as a sub and role player IMO.

 

That's sub 100G material, if you ask me. I know that it is difficult to quantify worth sometimes. Jesus, look at the debates that McBride causes. But if you're going to be an SI making max salary, don't you think this guy should be getting 1-2 assists every other game? Or at least responsible for springing attacks that result is goals that often. I remember what he did during the USOC Semi, but that was one game. He's proven unmotivated and inconsistent over a 28 game season far too often to warrant a six figure salary.

I have no problem cutting him loose from the team. But if we keep him, it has to be for much less than he makes now.

 

McBride, for one. But I wouldn't really call it a "sprawling estate". I was just pointing out that there are those in MLS that have fabulous homes. A few of our lads live well in New Albany. Some MLS players are paid a shameful 20+K (although I would expect MLS will raise that as more $$'s come into the league's coffers). Perez could have chosen to take his MLS top salary and live high on the hog. Instead he is generous to others. This does not justify paying him more--thus my disclaimer about this "not deciding what his salary should be". I just wanted to counter the "My people sell your people cocaine" mindset with a different perspective. I am just crushed that diablodelsol didn't find it riveting. *sigh*

 

Oh it was a joke. Come on people, please. Politically correct twinky-talk is making it impossible to say anything anymore. Half the problem with our society today is that everyone walks around on pins and needles for fear somebody might call them "insensitive" or "biased"

Lighten up.

As for the $20k salary being "shameful" well it ain't the lap of luxury, but nobody is twisting their arms. It'll keep you in peanut butter while you work to prove your worth.

I for one find it "shameful" that snot-nosed punks in other sports who haven't done a damn thing get showered with millions of dollars just to sogn the damn contract. THEN we get to see whether you can play or whether you were just stealing the money.

I'd like to see a little more cash for them too. I can't imagine trying to live in LA on twenty four grand. But MLS just laid off 30% of their office staff. Those people need to eat too, but there was no money to pay them as the league has no money.

So what you're really saying is "Hey, some rich guy ought to give these guys more of his money".

If there was no MLS, these guys would mostly be stocking shelves at Krogers. As it is, they can get gas money and a shot to become pros. If they don't like the deal, the fukkin time clock is right over there.+

 

i just wasted 7 1/2 minutes of my life reading this mindless crap...

 

Unless you're in a union or tenured at a University.

 

I just read this, and even though it isn't Crew related, I could believe it.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=252741&cc=5901

According to this, Taylor Twellman only made $24,000 last year! No wonder the guy wants a new contract after what he did last season. Damn, I think if you factor in how he did last season, he could easily get triple his old salary.

 

Re: Re: What's Perez Worth?

I don't disagree, but I believe a lot of the problem was a lack of effort on D. Martino & Mais both play good aggressive D. Perez tended to get fed up and wave his hands in the air while the ball moved smartly tword our goal. He has a lot of talent and experience. If he's willing to take a cut, I'd hate to lose him.