What's going on in Indian Country...

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Coyote-Trickster, Jul 21, 2020.

  1. Coyote-Trickster

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Since's there's been so much fall out with the McGirt case, and a whole lot of stuff is about to happen with various & sundry sports teams and other stuff that is tangentially racial, but tends to fall more under government to government actions and treaty responsibilities - I'm starting this thread to not clutter up others and side bar overarching racial discussions...



    It can also serve as an AMA for Native Issues
     
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  2. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Come on, what we really want to know is which tribe has the best Casino.




    :whistling:
     
  3. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In the East, "American Indian" is preferred to "Native American." Is that also true in your state?
     
  4. Coyote-Trickster

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In general, group self-referential for most of my life has been Indian (60%) American Indian (35%) & NA (5%) with the latter being primarily used by white passing Natives with little to zero interest in reconnection. Self Referential has always be tribal affiliation - Cherokee / Choctaw / Lakota / Dine, often multiple affiliation because of the pan-tribal intermarriage caused by the BIA Residential Schools, followed by clan / band

    As previously discussed hundreds of times on this site, the overall use of Native American has been primarily by non-Natives, growing out of the American obsession of Americans in their Settler / Colonizer Ancestry (Italian-Americans / Irish-Americans / etc, etc)

    Over time, with the reclamation of language, tribal affiliation has become more pronounced and the group self-referential has become just "Native", because we have existed before "America", IOW - the process of decolonization of people's minds & mindset about themselves
     
  5. Coyote-Trickster

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And in today's round up...



    Directly related to Sovereignty, the BIA gave up mineral rights from the MHA to the state of ND - likely as both a kickback to mineral extraction companies to get them and the BIA off the hook for royalties for mineral extraction - basically trying to overturn the Cobell ruling against the US...

    Also related...



    And I broke out of Twitter Jail and got the like for this...



    Emphasis Mine - Governor Bushybrows is not the brightest blub - just the most confident that if he keeps doing the same thing in trying to bully the tribes, he'll eventually win - but, he's lost every time he's tried to take on the tribes or divide them...

    Example...

    OK State Supreme Court Rejects Gaming Compacts Negotiated by Gov. Stitt...

    Emphasis Mine - I don't really like Treat, and McCall's a bullying shitbird, but they both know where the future of revenue is in this state - and it's not in the O&G industry any more - the tribes are the new players and they are increasingly political king makers
     
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  6. Coyote-Trickster

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    And because you are all my friends and you want to do something good that will literally set the hair on fire of every OKState Aggie - please consider signing the petition on E**kimo Joe's
     
  7. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wot about the Edmonton Eskimos? Are they gonna change their name to the "First Nation Native Peoples?" Or they could go all Euro-Trash with the "Edmonton CFC" name...
     
  8. MattR

    MattR Member+

    Jun 14, 2003
    Reston
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. Coyote-Trickster

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Most appropriately would be the Edmondton Eastern Metis - lets them keep pretending to be Indian - or Pretendians

    The Edmonton name change renewed the call for EJ's to change it's name - I give it 90 days before they do
     
  10. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Same as Black was bad and Negro was good and now Negro is bad and Black is good (although African-American is better).

    At least, that's what I guess. The only way to really know is to get the consensus from the people to whom the term is applied.
     
  12. Coyote-Trickster

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've heard some people say they prefer "Inuit" or "First Nations" unless using the specific group name.

    As far as labels go, if we are going to have them, let the people with those labels choose what they prefer. I have a friend who prefers "Black" over "African-American" (because he's not the equivalent of a "Polish-American" whose grandparents came over from Poland). If some people prefer "Hispanic" over "Latino" or vice versa, that's your choice. The same thing goes for any group of people. Just tell me what you want to be called and I'll use that.
     
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  14. chaski

    chaski Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 20, 2000
    Itchycoo Park
    Club:
    Lisburn Distillery FC
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
  15. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow, "soccer culture" is more pervasive than we thought! :p So they are just going to be called "Washington FT" then, and let the fans come up with their own "grass roots" nickname, y'know, like how Liverpool is the "Reds" and Chelsea is the "Blues."

    That should work out well :ROFLMAO:
     
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  16. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or, they can con fans into buying gear for the lone generic season as collectors' items, and then con them into buying First Edition Redtails jerseys.
     
  17. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well at least they did not go with Washington United.
     
  18. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    The United would have been a coup de grace.
     
  19. crazypete13

    crazypete13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 7, 2007
    A walk from BMO
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Not to mention the apex of irony.
     
  20. Coyote-Trickster

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In other news...





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  21. Coyote-Trickster

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  22. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. Coyote-Trickster

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  24. Coyote-Trickster

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And Marty Two Bulls weighs in on McGirt...

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  25. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Wow: that's like a hockey player serving out his five minute penalty and leaving the penalty box just in time to pick up a pass leading to a breakaway goal....
     

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