What Will Boot Today's Lame Music to the Curb?

Discussion in 'Movies, TV and Music' started by Cascarino's Pizzeria, Jan 8, 2003.

  1. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    every so often something like punk in the late 70s or "grunge" in the early 90s kicks in the teeth of "popular" music and exposes it for the music industry-driven garbage that it really is. It seems like teeny pop is thankfully on the wane and the rap/metal thing has seen its day. Any ideas?
     
  2. snowsuit

    snowsuit New Member

    Oct 1, 2000
    san diego
    don't we have this thread every couple of months, with a bunch of future mojo magazine subscribers chiming in while the rest of the world continues to ignore them.
     
  3. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Orchard St, NYC
    There's a simple solution and you can do it too.

    1. Save up all the money your relatives gave you for your birthday, graduation, etc.
    2. Invest wisely and watch the money grow.
    3. Buy major media corporations like AOL/Time Warner, Disney, Vivendi, Bartellsman, etc.
    4. Fire entire A&R departments.
    5. Buy Viacom and Clearchannel.
    6. Fire entire programing departments.

    There, six easy steps to better music. Or you can just listen to music you like and not pay attention to MTV or commercial radio.
     
  4. SportBoy321

    SportBoy321 New Member

    Jul 6, 2002
    New England
    The garage bands the "The" bands were supposed to take over todays music but it hasn't happened yet. About 5 years ago they said music like The Prodigy and The Chemical Bros. were gonna take over the US but techno rock never became huge.
     
  5. Lucid

    Lucid Member

    May 17, 1999
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Who's they? Rolling Stone and Spin Magazine? I wipe my ass with that trash. If we were the ones who determined what music we listen to, it might be easier to predict what's going to replace the crap out there now, but since we aren't the ones who decide, we'd have to pry into the minds of the recording industry and record label execs to figure that one out. But since most of us are fairly passionate about music and level headed, it's hard to imagine a world where people are replaced by walking dollar signs.

    But personally, I'd like to say a type of mainstream emo is going to emerge. I don't think we're ready for a grunge re-emergence (nor do I think we want one). Puddle of Mudd had reasonable success off their first CD, but I don't see other grunge bands piling through the door (or rather being pushed through the door by the recording industry). But I think with the emerging success of The Used and Jimmy Eat World along with the re-emergence of Weezer right now, it could be a plausable replacement for a genre that has less creativity and excitement than a Stephen Hawking druel painting.

    Buy CD's directly from the band, abandon corporate radio and MTV (I did a loooong time ago), support your local college radio station and local bands, download the s**t out of Kazaa, avoid ticketmaster at any cost (pardon the pun), spit on Hilary Rosen anytime you see her, and by doing these things, we will make this country's music a better place for you and me.

    By the way, leave it to these ******************s to say... "Demand for CD's and concerts is down, let's raise prices for both to make up for lost profits." Someone give these bastards a econ lesson and tell them when demand is down, lower prices, don't frickin raise them! Idiots. And you wonder why we hate you.
     
  6. Lucid

    Lucid Member

    May 17, 1999
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    By the way, here's a good read. Courtney Love's take on music today, racord labels, piracy, etc... Don't worry, I hate her too. Err... well, at least I used to hate her.

    http://www.mindspring.com/~gerryhem/piracy.html

    Here's one of my favorite parts.

    Music is intellectual property with full cash and opportunity costs required to create, polish and record a finished product. If I invest money and time into my business, I should be reasonably protected from the theft of my goods and services. When the judgment came against MP3.com, the RIAA sought damages of $150,000 for each major-label-"owned" musical track in MP3's database. Multiply by 80,000 CDs, and MP3.com could owe the gatekeepers $120 billion.

    But what about the Plimsouls? Why can't MP3.com pay each artist a fixed amount based on the number of their downloads? Why on earth should MP3.com pay $120 billion to four distribution companies, who in most cases won't have to pay a nickel to the artists whose copyrights they've stolen through their system of organized theft?

    It's a ridiculous judgment. I believe if evidence had been entered that ultimately it's just shuffling big cash around two or three corporations, I can only pray that the judge in the MP3.com case would have seen the RIAA's case for the joke that it was.

    I'd rather work out a deal with MP3.com myself, and force them to be artist-friendly, instead of being laughed at and having my money hidden by a major label as they sell my records out the back door, behind everyone's back.

    How dare they behave in such a horrified manner in regard to copyright law when their entire industry is based on piracy? When Mister Label Head Guy, whom my lawyer yelled at me not to name, got caught last year selling millions of "cleans" out the back door. "Cleans" being the records that aren't for marketing but are to be sold. Who the ************ is this guy? He wants to save a little cash so he ************s the artist and goes home? Do they fire him? Does Chuck Phillips of the LA Times say anything? No way! This guy's a source! He throws awesome dinner parties! Why ************ with the status quo? Let's pick on Lars Ulrich instead because he brought up an interesting point!
     
  7. capt. america

    capt. america Member

    Oct 5, 2001
    Boston, MA
    hang on, i'm waiting for the latest results of my focus group. i'll let you know what the kids like and then my awesome corporation will build bands that suit the greatest of those needs and we'll get back to you.
     
  8. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Re: Re: What Will Boot Today's Lame Music to the Curb?

    preliminary results are showing that none other than kelly osbourne - the talentless spawn of has-been metal drag queen ozzy osbourne - is hot, hot, hot!! the osbourne's already have the media in their back pockets. now we just need another song for her. hmmmm - i got it! "papa was a rolling stone." the kids are so brain dead today that they'll never realize that ozzy was in black sabbath, not the stones. i smell platinum, baby!
    (actual transcript from Acme record company strategy meeting).
     
  9. IMissTheFusion

    IMissTheFusion New Member

    Jun 21, 2002
    South Florida
    Popular music I fear will be lame from now on because there are so many stupid, mindless fools who lap up what the corporations shove down their throats.

    Support independent and local music. Go see a show in a bar. If you dig it, buy a cd or a T-shirt. Bring friends and spread the word

    The earth has music for those who want to listen.

    Just a suggestion for a great band...

    Gov't Mule www.mule.net
     
  10. Lucid

    Lucid Member

    May 17, 1999
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Exactly, there's a crapload of good music out there, it's just that none of it is mainstream. Look for it and you'll find it.
     
  11. capt. america

    capt. america Member

    Oct 5, 2001
    Boston, MA
    Re: Re: Re: What Will Boot Today's Lame Music to the Curb?

    without a doubt one of the funniest things that i've ever seen is kelly osbourne wearing a jacket that says popstars can kiss my fat ass. the irony worked on so many levels.
     
  12. capt. america

    capt. america Member

    Oct 5, 2001
    Boston, MA
    also, avril lavigne played the orpheum in boston the other day and they had all these girls on the news saying "we like her more than britney, b/c she's like real and not some corporate creation" i almost pissed myself laughing
     
  13. zpjohnstone

    zpjohnstone Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Finger Lakes, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A. Remember "electronica"? I believe that was actually a MTV creation.

    b. I think the Kelly Osbourne thing is just another artifact of the public's idiocy forcing the industry's hand. A public that is more concerned/enamored with the idea of celebrity than the actual substance of creative genius has been affecting our culture for a very long time.
     
  14. BlueMeanie

    BlueMeanie New Member

    Apr 1, 2002
    EastSIIIIDE
    Q: "What Will Boot Today's Lame Music to the Curb? "

    A: Tomorrow's lame music.

    "....and it goes on and on and on, it never ends, it goes on and on and on..."
     
  15. Lucid

    Lucid Member

    May 17, 1999
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I just saw next week on TRL The Used, New Found Glory, and The Donnas are playing. So combine that (minus The Donnas) with MTV's already unhealthy addiction to Good Charlotte and Sum 41 I think we know which direction they are heading towards.
     

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