What to do with Zach Thorton

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by gofire2001, Sep 27, 2002.

  1. gofire2001

    gofire2001 New Member

    Apr 5, 2001
    Section 8 Chicago
    He makes great saves or he let's in simple goals. Should we keep him in or give Ring the start???
     
  2. Jambon

    Jambon Member

    Mar 3, 2000
    Austin, TX
    Yeah, give Ring the start.

    Just make sure you do it against us. ;)
     
  3. Jaquie

    Jaquie New Member

    Sep 30, 2000
    Chicago
    Surely, you jest. Give Ring the start? Over Zach?

    Yes, the past few games, Zach has let in some soft goals - but his saves make up for it. It has been a very long season for the Fire and I am sure that takes its toll and puts more pressure on Zach.

    The Fire's problems are not in the defense.
     
  4. Start by giving him a sizeable lead.
     
  5. gofire2001

    gofire2001 New Member

    Apr 5, 2001
    Section 8 Chicago
    Re: Re: What to do with Zach Thorton

    Alright, I was upset and drunk last night so I made a stupid mistake. Start Thorton but he better not ************ up again.
     
  6. irishFS1921

    irishFS1921 New Member

    Aug 2, 2002
    WB05 Compound
    try and send him to italy and put jamar in goal.
     
  7. skinut

    skinut Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 25, 2000
    Castle Pines, CO (or often elsewhere on earth)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Man, now you're gonna get BerwynBlazer all riled up.
     
  8. GoHawks4

    GoHawks4 Member

    Apr 24, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Post of the year.
     
  9. The Truth Commission

    Mar 29, 2000
    Parts Unknown
    Give him a steak dinner for every save he makes.
     
  10. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    I didn't think he was at fault on either goal. Boca let TnT have a free header. That will often result in a goal!
     
  11. GoHawks4

    GoHawks4 Member

    Apr 24, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This game is not even the issue. I don't think giving up a goal to the best player in the leauge is the issue. The issue is the way he breaks down at the ends of games. He is overweight and his weight is affecting his endurance. This is how I see it anyway.
     
  12. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    yeah, he does look like he enjoys his food a bit too much.
     
  13. GoHawks4

    GoHawks4 Member

    Apr 24, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It happens to the best of us. I'm just wondering if it will take a trainer or Bob to tell him that he needs to cut down.
     
  14. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    It is impossible for me to understand how a pro athlete can have this problem. Zach is probably a big guy anyway, but he is carrying 30 lbs too much.
     
  15. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    By the way, Adin Brown is a big guy who is coming on strong, so if Zach wants to have a USA future, he must really kick it up a notch.I say this as a USA fan, not a Rev fan.
     
  16. thurd

    thurd New Member

    Jul 31, 2001
    Melrose, MA
    hahaha and a cupcake
     
  17. Red Hot

    Red Hot Member

    Aug 14, 2000
    Arizona
    I don't think weight is Zach's biggest problem. How much endurance does he need? He's not a field player. Concentration seems to be the bigger issue. That, and a defense that plays well for long periods and then completely forgets what it's supposed to be doing.
     
  18. genpabloescobar

    Feb 17, 2002
    Who the hell is Zach Thorton?

    As for Zach Thornton, leave him where he is.
     
  19. Arsonists

    Arsonists New Member

    Jan 25, 2000
    Banks of Plum Creek
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United Arab Emirates
    Sh!t can the fat ass. We should have got rid of him when the MLS has 12 teams and got some draft picks for him. Rings block goals not holes.
     
  20. GoHawks4

    GoHawks4 Member

    Apr 24, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would rather have my 9 year old sister in goal than Henry Ring. My sister is barely 4 feet tall. Ring is terrible.

    [​IMG]

    ...Subliminal messeges...
     
  21. The Truth Commission

    Mar 29, 2000
    Parts Unknown
    Hostess not only makes cupcakes, they make those 75-cent pies. Then the "who ate all the pies" chant would really fit.
     
  22. Jaquie

    Jaquie New Member

    Sep 30, 2000
    Chicago
    Z A C H T H O R N T O N

    Ring is NOT an option.

    I do not recall all of these attacks on Zach a month or so ago when the Fire was in first place. I do not notice that he has suddenly gained a ton since that time - so I do not see his weight as a main factor.

    The Fire has taken a beating in dead ball situations. The defenders have got to be sharper in the box and they have to remember the game ends when the whistle blows and that they have to defend until then. There have been too many last minute/stoppage time goals.

    Give him forwards and attacking mids who can find the back of the net. We cannot win without scoring. Lately, I find myself screaming "take the *@#$^%# shot!!!" I would rather see a missed attempt than yet another 10 pass set up which only ends up resulting in a turn over.
     
  23. GoHawks4

    GoHawks4 Member

    Apr 24, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Too true. Especially about the dead ball situations.
     
  24. ChangeT

    ChangeT Member

    Jul 29, 2002
    Chicago
    What about the last goal?

    The goal the Fire gave up to NE was pathetic and took alot of air out the team and stadium. I was at the game so I haven't had the benefit of watching it again, but it seemed to me Zach could have stopped that one. It was on a counter-attack and the defense fell asleep.
    I was filled with quite a bit of dread after that goal. Thankfully the Fire was able to overcome due to the home crowd. If we were on the road, we might have been out.
     
  25. RogerinIL

    RogerinIL New Member

    Feb 24, 1999
    The NE goal was somewhat of a fluke. The shot was great and I doubt many, if any keepers could have stopped it. it was just perfectly placed.

    The problem was the improbable flight of the ball back toward the Fire's penalty area off the player's heads. It landed in exactly the right spot for it to be too far for Zach to come out, perfectly located for Kamler to run on to it, and between the Fire defenders.
     

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