Ship his ass out Capello....he should consider it a priviledge that hes still even on the damn squad.... How is coming out in public and bitching about not getting more playing time...this early in the season....gonna help his case And while you're at it....ship out Helguera too becoz sooner or later hes gonna start bitching about his playing time and making comments about wanting to play for Barca.
That's not what Pavon is bitching about. As much as I don't see him as one of our central defenders, if what he's saying is true, I kind of agree with him.
Yeah I didnt see anything wrong with his comments. He makes a very good point. He's not just bitching about playing time. He didnt play at all last season and he didnt bitch. Its about being led to believe one thing, and then realising another.
The coach already told him he had him in mind....the season is long and it hasn't even started yet....couldn't he at least waited for the first game of season before going to the press with his whining.
It's an integrity issue, I'm sure he knows he sucks, it's just the fact he was made to believe he didn't. He thought he had a chance...
Yes the season is long, but Calderon has just confirmed that Capello wants another CB. How much playing time does the 6th CB on a team usually get?
Hes talking about Capello not showing faith in him....How about he show Capello some faith. Maybe Capello is saving him for the Copa del rey....
Pavon was told by Capello that he counted on him as one of the team's central defenders. By the way, Pavon approached Capello b/c he had other offers. Now Capello is saying he wants another central defender and he isn't taking Pavon to Cadiz for the Trofeo Carranza. Pavon isn't bitching about playing time; he feels he's been misled and may have missed an opportunity to join another decent squad (Villareal). I agree with him. Why would we do this to Pavon? Why would Capello say he counts on him when he's barely used him in the preseason and is not asking for another central defender? Pavon has been more the respectful since joining the team and has taken probably more shyt than he deserves. How someone can be pissed at what he is saying is beyond me.
I mean, its hard to show faith when you're being relegated to sixth string. ITs hard to believe a couch 'counts' on you when you find yourself with 5 guys ahead of you. Saving him for La Copa? That's precisely what Pavon didn't want. What he's saying is that if that was the case, he would have preferred to accept one of his offers. But Capello told him not to because he 'counted' on him. Now Pavon feels deceived, and rightfully so.
How you know the Copa del rey situation was mention when he discussed his future with the club with Capello....
If thats what he said than what's this thread about? reelmaad I dont see any bitching, oh and why the hell did Capello say he was going to keep him? Even if we dont sign another CB he should have been told to accept the offer and move on to whichever team wanted him.
Christ man, take your blinders off. I was responding to your post saying "maybe Capello wants him for the Copa". I can guarantee you that at the beginning of preseason, Pavon was not lead to believe that he was only going to play in Copa matches. If that were the case, he surely wouldve been asked to leave.
If what Butragueño said about Pavon not wanting to play the Copa del rey is true.....then i see his point a little more clearly But i still think its too darn early to be doubting the coaches word....maybe Capello is looking ahead.... Who'd have ever thought Mejia would have played all those game last season and Baptista would have had such a slow start to his Madrid career.
What player in his right mind wants to stick around only for Copa del Rey matches? Especially when the starters will all play again once the team gets into the later rounds. THINK for a minute. It helps. Ahead to what? He told him not sign for another team and now he is asking for another central defender, making Pavon the 6th choice. What is Capello looking ahead for?
Hey its long season and 3 competitions to play and new players don't always work out.....maybe Capello had that in mind and was playing it safe when he talked to Pavon. Aw well maybe Capello meant it back when they talked.....things change....minds included
Yea, but the reason i asked the question was i wondering if there was any information on them actually talking about it when they had discussed his future.