What teams will improve/decline next season?

Discussion in 'Premier League: News and Analysis' started by dustcowpoke, May 7, 2007.

  1. dustcowpoke

    dustcowpoke Member

    Jan 7, 2006
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What clubs do you think will improve and decline for next season?

    Improve:
    1) Aston Villa- Lerner supposedly given MON a blank check. Come on Bellamy and Defoe. Could be challenging for Europe
    2) Newcastle- Owen and Martins up top, Allardyce at the helm. Europe is calling.
    3) Chelsea- Russian spending-spree

    Decline:
    1) Bolton- Allardyce gone. Anelka wants out. Diouf too.
    2) Tottenham- Is Berbatov staying? Is Defoe staying?
    3) Sheff Utd- Relegation written all over them
     
  2. The Double

    The Double Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 11, 2002
    Denver
    Yes, and No. Mr. Bent, please pick up the white courtesy phone.
     
  3. Teso Dos Bichos

    Teso Dos Bichos Red Card

    Sep 2, 2004
    Purged by RvN
    Man Utd could go either way, it all depends on what happens in the summer. Players like van der Sar, Neville, Scholes, Giggs and Solskjaer will all be a year older. They will start to decline and will not be able to last an entire season. How we manage that will be key.
     
  4. Gliding7

    Gliding7 New Member

    May 1, 2007
    Improve:

    1. Liverpool - with $$ to spend now. It'd help more if they win the CL, helps to attract top talent.

    2. Arsenal - the young talent will be more mature and ready for a charge to the title race. + Henry and van Persie will be back.

    3. West Ham - if somehow they cheat their way staying in the Premiership this season. The mini-version of "Chel$ea" can only get better with the players they got.


    Decline:

    1. Bolton - they were overachieved under big Sam. new manager may not be able to bring the best out of them.

    2. Reading - like Ipswich, Wigan at the past, the "second year-wall" may come to haunt them. teams now learned how to deal with them.

    3. Spurs - it's their tradition that after taking a step forward (last season), they would go on and move 2 steps backward.

    4. Man U - they relied too much on Ronaldo. can't afford an injury to their key man. besides, the team is probably overdue for a transition period, Scholes and Giggs aren't getting any younger.
     
  5. boatsandstars

    boatsandstars New Member

    Feb 14, 2007
    Brooklyn, NY
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Spurs will be improved next year for sure.

    Berbs is not going anywhere, the Big 4 can drool over him all they want.
    Defoe COULD go, but I really think he'll be there next year.

    Combine our top 3 strikers with some new aquisitions in the midfield and defense with the amount of match experience we had this year (and MJ figuring out how to balance league and cups) and Spurs could move up.

    Also, we played like 19 more matches this year than last and most without our best defender (King) and with a extremely weak left side. And for all of the praise towards Berbs: remember, he didn't get adjusted until almost halfway through the season. Next year he'll lead the league in goals.
     
  6. fernb8

    fernb8 Member+

    Aug 12, 2002
    Improve

    1. Villa- O'Niell is sorting them out and with some more money and a few good players they could certianly be in Europe next season
    2. Blackburn- I think Hughes will sign a few more players in the summer as I think the Domestic Cup runs and playing in Europe really took a toll on their League performances
    3. Newcastle- Big Sam should organize the defense and he will have money to spend as usual at St. James Park
    4. Everton- Moyes has done a nice job and has played most of the season without one his best players, Tim Cahill. Throw a few new players in the mix, perhaps Joey Barton, and things could get interesting on Merseyside
    5. West Ham- if they survive, I cant see them going through another season like this. They must keep hold of Tevez though.

    Decline
    1. Bolton- with Big Sam gone, could be trouble up mill for the Trotters
    2. Reading- the second year is so much harder, just ask Wigan
    3. Boro- although they have some good young players, they have plenty of players the wrong side of 30. Could be trouble if they get off to a slow start.
    4. Fulham/Sheff Utd/Wigan- whoever stays up from the pack will be right back down their next season
    5. Man City- depending on who leaves and if their is any new investment in the club
     
  7. LuisFabiano

    LuisFabiano New Member

    Jul 14, 2005
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Improve
    West Ham- I see big things ahead if they keep Tevez

    Blackburn- Mark Hughes. enuff sed
    Newcastle- I agree Owen nd Martins will be deadly(PLus Ameobi as backup). Add sibierski, Dyer and hopefully a rejuvinated Duff. with the help from big sam, they can start moving up the table

    Decline
    Reading- you all know why

    ManU- Obviously not drastically but maybe 2nd or even 3rd. They need to start rebuilding soon. Giggs, Neville,VDS nd scholes arent getting younger and who knows how long they can keep up their form

    Bolton- some key players may leave with Big Sam

    ManC & Fulham- dont see much in their squad that will say they're can move up
     
  8. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    I believe we've been hearing a version of this for the past what, 20 years? I'll believe it when I see it.
     
  9. juanca

    juanca New Member

    Jan 30, 2006
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Arsenal FC

    agreed;)
     
  10. tigerdave

    tigerdave Member

    Aug 23, 2004
    Buhl, Idaho
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Teams that should improve:

    Arsenal -
    A young squad will be a year more seasoned, and you can't expect that TH and RvP will both be injured for massive periods again.

    Aston Villa - A good manager and carte blanche from the owner usually means the quality will improve.

    Newcastle - Huge limb I'm going out on, I know :rolleyes: but they can't be this injured, and maybe they'll hire a manager who's not in over his head.

    Teams that should see a decline:

    Fulham - Unless they get the right manager, I think they're likely to find the drop.

    Bolton - Big Sam made this club over the last eight years, and there's bound to be some level of drop-off.

    Portsmouth - Kanu's a year older, Campbell is a year older, Johnson's going back to Chelsea and they're likely to sign Titus Bramble. The last one alone should set off alarm bells. :eek:
     
  11. mshankb

    mshankb Member

    Nov 15, 2004
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Bellamy and Defoe? Are you off your tits?



    To improve:
    West Ham - nailed on for UEFA position next season.
    Arsenal - as the team gels and Henry returns. Look for Wenger to start losing the plot around early March though.
    Chelsea - simply because we surely won't suffer as much from injuries


    To decline:
    Liverpool - Benitez will chop and change AGAIN and it will be to their detriment
    City - WILL go down
    United - only a tiny bit, but hopefully enough :D
     
  12. kanonier

    kanonier Member+

    Nov 7, 2005
    Bloomington, Ind.
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Improve:
    1. Newcastle - love the strike duo if Owen can stay healthy
    2. Blackburn - good season, there's more in them
    3. Fulhman - I think they'll come around if they can get a good manager.

    Disprove: ;)
    1. Reading - I don't think they'll go down, but can't repeat early success.
    2. Bolton - Might miss Europe.
    3. Man Utd - They're on a high, and bound to come down a bit. Not far.

    I'm not drinking the Aston Villa Kool-Aid yet. We'll see what happens. I left Arsenal off the improve list, because they're my own club :)
     
  13. manunited0303

    manunited0303 New Member

    May 10, 2007
    Missouri
    I agree with you. I am hoping Ferguson will bring in some key players. Definitely Hargreaves and hopefully Berbatov and Gareth Bale.
     
  14. Mac_Howard

    Mac_Howard New Member

    Mar 5, 2002
    Mandurah, Perth, WA
    I think this run of seasons where 90 plus points have been the norm for the Premiership winners will come to an end with both Utd and Chelsea coming down to the low to mid eighties and Liverpool and Arsenal in much closer proximity. So:

    Up: Liverpool, Arsenal and West Ham (if they stay up)

    Down (a little); Utd and Chelsea with Bolton dropping towards relegation.

    The Premiership next season will be a four team fight.
     
  15. Ian Daglers

    Ian Daglers New Member

    Jul 11, 2006
    Live from New York
    IMPROVE:

    Chelsea - Hate to say it, but the disappointing 80-odd-point "failure" of this season is a blip. There seems no reason not to expect them to be a pace-setter next year. The notion of United, Liverpool and Arsenal all keeping up is wild-eyed optimism, IMO.
    Aston Villa - I think O'Neill can do better than 11th with a chance to pick a few new players. Again, hard to see why not.
    Sunderland - Keane won't be afraid to remake his team quickly to deal with the pressures of the Premiership, and has the clout to do so. Somehow, despite his lack of experience, I have more confidence in the Mackems than the "new and improved" Newcastle club that will surface.

    DECLINE:

    Bolton - No way they do as well as they did this year, when they had basically the last credible non-big 4 CL challenge (which admittedly, was not that credible). They overperformed this year, and without their manager, they'll be in some trouble.
    Sheffield United - Do they even have a plan for staying up? Worse at the end of the season than at the beginning, which is never a good sign. Did a good job of making the most of their opportunities to beat bad teams this year, but I see fewer bad teams next season.
    Middlesbrough - Got some good wins this year, but I don't have much confidence in Gareth Southgate to keep them from turning into a relegation candidate. I'd mention Fulham instead, but they were just so bad this year that I'm not sure "worse" is really appropriate. All in all, they're probably looking more drop-bound than Boro though.
     
  16. Barton8

    Barton8 New Member

    Jun 19, 2006
    Club:
    Portsmouth FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Improve
    Chelsea
    WestHam
    BlackBurn
    Newcastle
    Sunderland/Birmingham(may pull a wigan/reading)

    Roughly the same position
    Spurs
    Everton
    Arsenal
    Portsmouth
    Liverpool

    Decline
    Bolton
    Fulham
    ManC
    Reading
    Middlesborough


    I'd put ManU either in Decline or Same position depending on signings.

    I really don't see much in the Arsenal squad and situation that may suggest they may improve. From reports, I dont think they'll prepared as well for the new season as other teams will in terms of transfers. I predict a 4th again position and maybe the season after that they may come stronger, but you never know.
     
  17. leg_breaker

    leg_breaker Member

    Dec 23, 2005
    To be honest, I think Bolton will be relegated within the next three seasons, and will be in administration within ten.
     
  18. pookspur

    pookspur Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 3, 2001
    Indiana
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    administration? why?

    i'm sure you know more about bolton than i do, but why would a club that appears to have been run pretty well for a few years now be presumed to operate so poorly that they cannot even function?

    do you have alot of debt on the reebok that is structured in a way that championship football cannot sustain it?
     
  19. Alex1975

    Alex1975 New Member

    Jun 16, 2006
    Auckland
    I think Reading have a bit more quality about them than what Wigan and Ipswich have had in previous years. They also have a very astute Manager so I think they will stay about where they are. In Seol Ki-Hyeon they have one of the most underated players in the Premiership.

    Teams that will do better:

    Tottenham (As long as Berbatov stays) and if they can sign a quality Central Defender I think they will be knocking on the door for a Champions League spot.


    Arsenal I'm still not a fan of Lehman. But with Henry and Van Persie back they should be able to score enough goals (Attack is the best form of defence! So hopefully Lehman wont be too much of a factor) to get in the top 2.

    My Top 4 at the end of next season (I've probably jinxed them all now!!):

    Chelsea
    Arsenal
    Liverpool
    Tottenham


    Teams that wont do as well:

    Man Utd in terms of The Premiership because I think Sir Alex will be more concerned with European Glory (Though I doubt they will win with the players they currently have). Man Utd could do with a Central Midfielder with a bit of flair to complement Ronaldo on the right. Scholes is good but still not the player he was. I also don't think Hargreaves is the solution (A bit too similar to Carrick).


    Portsmouth I just can't see them doing as well two seasons in a row.
     
  20. Barton8

    Barton8 New Member

    Jun 19, 2006
    Club:
    Portsmouth FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    having Henry and RVP isnt just enough for the gunners, they need to get more quality players. Possibly another striker(proven) and a goal gettin midfielder. And they need to be more consistent and have good backups incase of injuries to be in the top 2. Their major weakness is their lack of money to buy good player and may be outpriced by the likes of Manu and Chelsea.

    Dont count manu out that quick. They know they need to rebuilt and that's what they've been doing. with another striker, Rossi back, and a creative central midfielder with possibly Nani and another defender, they can chase the premiership title again.

    Tottenham need to fix a few things. They are one of they best attacking teams but need to sort out their defence. a CL spot may be realistic.

    Finally on Pompey I'm not sure but if we sign more players to cover much needed positions then we're set for a UEFA cup place. Our main priority is a striker. 2 quality strikers, possibly Defoe and Yakubu could fire us to europe.
     
  21. musicl

    musicl New Member

    Jan 9, 2004
    Improve......

    Spurs - Wont sell anyone and will bring in better players like they always do.

    Newcastle - If Sam is there they will improve.

    Fulham - Good manager.

    Chelsea - Jose will make sure.

    West Ham - will stay up and are bound to improve.


    Decline........

    Arsenal - They have no English players.

    Aston Villa - A joke of a manager.

    Bolton - No Sam.

    Everton - Due their bad year.
     
  22. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think a lot of it depends on who they buy to bolster their midfield. If they get Danielle De Rossi, then I believe they will be looking very good next year. The Ronaldo-Rooney formula will grow even stronger too.
     
  23. leg_breaker

    leg_breaker Member

    Dec 23, 2005
    Well, on the showing of the last few months, I'd have to say that Bolton will definitely be relegated next season. Our squad is atrocious, our defenders have no pace and can't mark anyone, our midfielders have no pace, we can't string two passes together. Our best players will leave and we'll never find anyone to replace them. Without Allardyce the only way is down. The strain of the Uefa cup will be the final nail in the coffin.
     
  24. polak metro

    polak metro New Member

    Feb 5, 2004
    you are way off .spurs will sell defoe i think berbatov will leave.mark my words allardyce will not be newcastle coach. fulham dont have a good coach my honest opnion of sanchez . mourinho IS OUT. i only agree with west ham. arsenal will not decline bc of no english players . martin o'neil is niot a joke of a manager. i agree with bolton struggling . everton wont struggle with the league with europe like they did last season
     
  25. reaction2222

    reaction2222 New Member

    May 12, 2007
    Ooltewah TN, USA
    Arsenal will improve. They played a lot of young guys this year. Losing Van Persie really hurt, he was having a great season. With him and Henry back, as well as the matured young talent, they will be righ tin the mix for the title. Plus, they should get some good signings in the summer.
     

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