http://www.fcbayern.t-online.de/en/....php?fcb_sid=fa98331342ba9cb16f7b5b4942055207 ok lets break it down - elber is probably gone, so im thinkin its a striker - help me out here: who is rummenigge talking about acquiring? he shot down the kluivert talk - morientes? adriano? ronaldinho? rivaldo? tomasson? zlatan? klose? kovacevic? kewell? bowyer? mathis? btw the last two were meant as jokes - as for the others, its not as if i know anything or even think they are likely the target in question - i just tried to come up with some frontline types who are at least unsettled if not downright on the move any ideas? word on the street?
All the talk earlier in the season was Klose, I've no idea who they are linked with currently. I've never been a fan of Elber's, Bayern would be well advised to let him go and get in a top striker. If they don't they will not go very far in Europe next season, despite the ridiculous and arrogant claims of Hoeness that they are "better than Man Utd".
Elber leaves in 2004, so probably there's no new forward to be expected for this season. Usually Bayern doesn't buy the big names, but sure you will hear lots of them in the next weeks (Makaay was the last I heard). I wouldn't think about it too much, to me it rather seems to get the focus off Bayern's fight with DFL to a more pleasant topic.
Christ, I'd never thought I'd post something here in defence of Bayern Munich (argh), but I've got news for you: Giovane Elber *is* a top striker, albeit a somewhat ageing one, whether this "news" has made its way over to you or not. His record, national or international, speaks most impressively for itself. As for ManUre, it's a toss-up which of these 2 sides are better, I certainly don't think they are in any way ahead of Bayern. Additionaly ManUre seem to be just as much or slightly more of a waning force at the moment, with a rapidly ageing squad and an unreasonably inflated perception of themselves. But no matter, because neither of these two is a match for the top side on this continent, as the last 2 seasons proved most conclusively. Ok, I'm going back to hating Bayern and ManUre with equal conviction, forget I said all that...
Sorry to force you to post in defence of Bayern!! My comments re Elber or just a personal opinion, I just don't rate him as a top striker. And I would have to disagree with respect to his international record being impressive (although I do accept the fact he is Brazilian has limited his chances). And whether Bayern are better or not than Man Utd is not really the point, maybe they are better. I was just commenting on another stupid Hoeness comment that Bayern would have done better against Real than Manchester. How does he know? They had their chance in the CL and finished where exactly? He also had a swipe at Leverkusen in the same interview, just not a very sporting person.
You're forgiven *sniff* Well, that's what I meant. Elber is a Brazilian, and one that has been at odds with the Brazilian federation for ages, so it's little wonder he's not done too much playing for the Selecao over the years. Therefore, when I refer to his international record I am of course talking about Europe and while I have no statistics ready to back me up I am sure he has scored his share of goals in both CL and UEFA Cup, certainly enough to be accepted as a top striker. Hey, don't push your luck. You already got me to defend Bayern (well, Elber really, which is not nearly as bad) in this thread, you most certainly will not get me to defend Uli Hoeness
There's a rumor of Kluivert being pursued. I think it's just that, a rumor. I've heard rumors about Henry, Shevchenko, etc. in the past. Personally, I don't think much of Kluivert--he's a typical striker, taking all the glory, accepting none of the blame. I've stopped listening. I don't think a top-international star of the level of Zidane, Van Nistelrooy, or Rivaldo will ever join the BL. The BL is too provincial for them, and Bayern wouldn't pay the money. There are five teams in Europe that can have any player they want: Real Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus, Inter, and Milan. No other team can compete with the lure of these teams, not even ManU, Arsenal, Liverpool--forget about Bayern. Naturally, I'd love to see Henry, Raul, or Vieri at Bayern. It's never going to happen. But maybe a Hasselbaink, Alan Smith, or some undiscovered Brazilian might. But only if Madrid, Barca, Inter, Juve, Milan, Arsenal, Liverpool, ManU aren't knocking. So...um...I don't really have a good guess. I'd rather see someone from the amateur team come up.
They don't necessarily have to spend huge amounts of money to get the big names to Munich, look at what Wenger has done at Arsenal, players like Henry, Viera and Pires were not that highly regarded before they moved to London. I have always found it odd that the German teams never compete for the big names in the European transfer market. Surely Bayern with all their dodgy deals can afford it!
Unlike Fulham, Bayern know apparently know not to over-spend on players. By the way, Sport1.de rumors it to be Makaay. And that would be just fine with me.
I'd love to see Kezman in Munich next year, but I think his price tag might be too high for Bayern with Juve and Barca possibly interested along with Man U. I think Makaay could be a great pick up, but why would Deportivo let him go cheaply? Is there something I don't know?
Elber can go Did you just compare Bayern Munich with Fulham!? This mornings papers quote the wonderful Uli as saying Elber can go "as soon as we have a replacement". Makaay is also rumoured to be that replacement.
Well, apparently Makaay has said no. Or more precisely, and not surprisingly, he said his priority is to stay in Spain, or maybe play in England. The important thing to note is that he didn't mention a club, but leagues instead. I'm telling you, no top-shelf world-class player wants to come to the BL--Bayern or not. Makaay finished by saying that he doesn't want to exclude any possibilities. Yeah, whatever... Now, supposedly (according to Sport1.de), Bayern is looking at Morientes. That would be fantastic, but it'll never happen. While he says he defintiely wants to leave Real at the end of the season, he also says that he has several interesting offers (read: I'm going to England, I'm sure that ManU will pay whatever amount of money Real will ask. Anyone see a Morientes-Beckham swap happening?). Let me see; play in 'Serie A' against Lazio, Roma, Juventus, Inter, and Mailand (Milan); play in the EPL against ManU, Arsenal, and Liverpool; play in 'La Liga' against Real Madrid, Barcelona, Valencia, and La Coruna; or come to the BL and play against...um...yeah. So while Bayern may be the rich club of the BL, it surely doesn't help in attracting the best foreign, or sometimes even domestic (Frings) players. Pity.
Syncope, i think you are bit too negative about the bundesliga. Imagine the future of Hertha Berlin, Schalke 04, Borussia Dortmund, Hamburg and Bayern Munich. In 2006 they all have fantastic stadiums and they will have more money than Juve or Inter. And they will be for sure bigger clubs than - what you mentioned - La Coruna or Valencia. In 2006 - in my opinion - the strongest Leagues with rich clubs an modern arenas will be in England and Germany. And to call the BL provincial: Don't think that Osasuna, Villareal, Bergamo, Udinese, Como or whatever have more esprit than for example Nuremberg, Rostock or Bielefeld.
With Bayern missing Champions League cash this last season, shouldn't a better question be 'what star is Bayern looking to unload'??
It's true, I do sound negative about the BL. I'm not trying to, but I am a bit depressed about it. Yes, every league has great, average, and mediocre teams--Spain, Italy, Germany, England, France, Holland, Portugal, etc. all do. But what depresses me about the BL is the incosistency of the teams. Disregarding Bayern, the only good team for a while (say 5 years) has been Dortmund. Last year Leverkusen was one of the best teams in Europe. The year before Schalke played the most beautiful soccer in the league--but then failed miserably in the CL. Herta should become a European giant; the infrastructure is in place. Bremen always has the ability to surprise. But on a European level, we only have 1.5 teams in the upper echelons: Bayern and Dortmund. Why Schalke can't keep it together is a mystery to me; I would love to see them succeed, and I think they can and should. So with the BL only having 1.5 "international" teams, any world-class player joining Bayern has only the 'half-team' left to play against for prestige. Not much of an enticement. That's why England, Spain, and Italy can attract these players. While Spain has had the best top-four of any league over the past few seasons (statistically speaking), I think that the English league has the greatest depth, and Italy the most internationally renowned teams. In the BL I only see two top teams, 4-5 average, and the rest would probably get beat silly in the English, Spanish, and Italian leagues. That is a bit depressing.
dont think so... Lucio resigned for Bayer and stated he would be willing to play for relegated Bayer if that occurs, may be wrong there but i seem to remember this happening while he was injured. Dont think Nowotny is a target either coming off 2 consecutive injuries which I dont believe would affect his value. Plus the man from Argentina arrives this summer. Unless Lucio goes back on his word I dont think this will happen. Bayern will prolly steal away a young forward prospect ala Lauth. That's just based on Zickler leaving, If Elber goes as well.....
I'd love to see Lucio at Bayern. That would make me happier than any striker they can get. If there's even the slightest chance of this being a possiblity, I believe Bayern would pursue this with all fervor. However, I'd rather see Leverkusen with Lucio in the BL. I'm willing to bet that if Leverkusen goes down, some big-name club will make an irresistible offer--typically from the Spanish, English, or Italian leagues--regardless of what Lucio says or wants.