Well he obviously a defender that plays on the left side of the field, but is he a strike or attacking midfielder cause he spends most of the game on the other side of the field, just curious, what would u call that position?
Wingback He's not the only fullbacks who make forward runs. It's just that most fullbacks also track back regularly. The best way to describe RoCa is that left back is his listed address but he spends most nights over at his girlfriend's place.
He lines up at as a leftback/wingback and he does ever so often really play back there, but most of the time he is involved in the attack for Madrid so I would say he's more of a free player in terms of his responsibilites on the pitch which says a lot about his skill level because that is usually a privilage reserved for a Totti or Zidane . There are a couple of reasons I think he can get away with this one is he can cover the ground with little problem and is a very fast strong runner, another Madrid when in attack are usually so good with the ball at their feet they can afford to let him roam up a bit because they tend to end their moves up field with a shot that allows the backs who pushed up to recover. Also he get results when he moves up the field pretty often so why limit a player with that special talent and skill. I think he is one of the few players in the World along with Zidane who really is a danger any place on the field due to his all around play and ability.
Re: Re: What position does r. carlos play Yeah, Tommy Smith described Left Back as the place where he picks up his mail, something to that effect.Actually, he normallly shows an incredible work rate in getting back to defend. And also, I have to wonder about the role he's played in helping Ronaldo return to form...seems like Roberto Carlos takes a proprietary interest in Il Phenomeno, and Ronaldo's best performances in the past 5 years have all come with Roberto Carlos on the field with him.
Re: Re: Re: What position does r. carlos play I should have mentioned this - I noticed this especially at last year's World Cup that his defending has gotten better and has shown more commitment to get back. But Real's system with two d-mids allows him to push up more freely than fullbacks on other clubs.
+ im sorry i believe r carlos is a good player and probably the best at his position which i still dont know what it is, but to compare him to Zizou or Totti u must be out of your mind
I would compare him to Brehme who also attacked alot from the wingback position for Germany in 1990. He was the first player I saw playing attack from the leftback position. I had a feeling that Junior (brazil 1982) played simliar style, but I was too young to remember.
If I remember well, Junior was not a leftback, but a midfielder. With the exception of keeper Valdir Perez, everyone in that team could attack and make goals. It is really unfortunate that Zico never won a WC. He deserved it much more than Romario.
The way R Carlos plays for Real, I don't think these is a real name for his position. We should start making up names to identify where he plays. How about: Left Attack-back Whatever possition he plays for Real it's fun as hell to watch.
I think you misunderstood what I ment by that comment, I wasn't saying he has the same playmaking skills as Totti or ZZ. I just mean that when you are given a free role in what is usually a structured position it says a lot about what you can offer to the team in ways the opposition doesn't expect and makes you a special player with Totti or ZZ being other examples of players who skills are vast enough across the board to offer a new dimension to the listed position they have on the team sheet. I like the example someone else gave for R. Carlos being like Andy Brehme from the German National team of the mid 80's to the early 90's they were very similar in their approch to the position and had a lot of the same strenghts like a bullet shot(although Brehme had a better right foot than R. Carlos),strong running and a great free kick. I find Carlos more skillful with the ball but he's from Brasil and that explains it's self. Just in case anyone doesn't know Carlos started out as a striker in Brasil club system, then a midfeilder for Inter, then to a back for Real, so it is easy to see why his attacking skills are so fine tuned.
I think in the world cup they officially played a 3-5-2 or somethin with R. Carlos and Cafu as wings. This would be the best position for thme I think since in a 352 your wings track back farther then in a 442.
Didn't Junior score a cracker of a goal (a banana shot, IIRC) from like 40 yards in 82? I was just a little kid back then, but I still remember that awesome goal.
Roberto Carlos isn't exactly one of a kind, esp when you talk about Brazil. In 1958, they had Djalma Santos and Nilton Santos who were like Cafu and Roberto Carlos, and in 1970, you had Carlos Alberto and Everaldo attacking from the fullback positions.
Roberto Carlos plays left wingback, but is very adept at attacking, a la a midfielder. John O'Shea looks to be following in his footsteps at Man Utd as much as he gets forward to join the attack. But I don't think that there has ever been a fullback that attacks as often as RC does...
You might be thinking of Josimar from 1986. I do not remember whether he played on the left or rightback. He scored a brilliant goal against Pat Jennings & Northern Ireland. he might have scored another one.
Not exactly. Junior went on to play the central midfielder position outright when he moved to Italy, and also lead Flamengo to its last Brasileiro championship playing in the vacated Zico spot. Junior's all around game and field generalship was remarkable. R.Carlos doesn't posess that same game management ability. He does however contribute to the attack more decisively than almost any wing back in memory. A few years ago R. Madrid posted a stat indicating that R.Carlos was involved in 30% of goals scored that season. That too is remarkable.