You yourself admit Clinton is no "stalin" but rather the opinion was incorrectly held. There is no objective equivalence between Trump and Clinton
In my opinion there was no equivalence between Trump and Clinton, in the mind of many others there was, they may all be idiots, but I can't say for certain that they all are. I mean I get you, sometimes I say that all religious people are idiots, but I don't really mean it, many religious people are very smart, much smarter than me for sure, but they still believe weird superstitious stuff. I sort of see the same with people that made the false equivalency, they are a bit "religious" in their thinking, but not necessarily idiots. You may not want them to vote democrat, I do, the Democrat party needs to be a big tent where "idiots" are welcome. I care more about winning than the purity of those voting democrat.
I don't get this narrative I must say I am not the DNC. I am not even American. Pretty much the opinion over here of the people I speak to is that anyone who did not vote to stop Trump is an idiot because he is so plainly a crook, unqualified, and dangerous. I don't see what is achieved by being nice about it. People are dumb and now they have to pay the price.
That is this Liberal bubble, and unfortunately too many people on the left seem to believe this, that is dangerous for the democrats going forward. I would say if we (democrats/liberals) keep up with this mentality we are going to continue to be shocked after we lose election after election. I get that you do not care in Germany, that is fine, I care here in the USA. Claiming that people that do not agree with me politically are idiots is not only not nice, but counter-productive to winning elections. Jus my opinion.
I am not claiming they are idiots because they don't agree with me. I am claiming they are idiots on an objective basis. And I can do this because I am not trying to win an election. Of course the DNC cannot do this. But I am not the DNC.
Worth reading ... http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/20/opinion/sunday/the-democrats-real-turnout-problem.html
That democrats have a turn out problem is well known. Obama was able to get over this with his persona, H. Clinton was not.
??? The Dems have won the popular vote 6 of the last 7 elections. I mean, yeah, twice they lost the EC, but that doesn't speak to a turnout problem. That's a maldistribution problem.
Who controls the Senate the house and most state governments? If the young, browns and blacks voted at similar levels of whites, and we "discovered" that we are allowed to vote in non presidential elections, the Democrat party would be running most government right now.
I saw a fun post on DK saying that if you moved a certain border Illinois county into Wiscy, a Ohio border county into Michigan, and an NJ border county into PA, Hillary would have won. My reaction to that was NOT to say Hillary "really" won or the system is rigged or something like that. My reaction was, there's some pretty arbitrary, small factors that got Trump elected. You were responding to a post about the 2012 and 2016 elections.
Well not Clintons numbers [In Wisconsin]. http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspi...tion-poll-numbers-were-accurate/#5d129c4a291e
Jill Stein is now officially the Ralph Nader of 2016. Stein votes/Trump margin:MI: 51,463/10,704PA: 49,678/46,765WI: 31,006/22,177— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) December 1, 2016 Good. I need more people to blame.
Might as well. This year has been the ********ing worst for me personally, so if my shitty year spilled over into everyone else's, it would make sense.
Does anyone have an idea as to why Trump's people are so upset about the potential recounts? Sure, Michigan might flip, it was really close. (I think that was the one.) But wasn't PA almost 100,000? Unless the Russians really did hack the machines, ain't no way they're finding 100,000 votes. Who cares? Why would Trump care if Jill Stein found a grift. Unless it's just a matter of professional jealousy.
PA got down to 45k, WI is 27K (and probably the most suspicious one with Walker at the helm) and MI 11k.