If everyone is truly doing it then they all are gaining the same relative advantage (whatever that may be). The question is how accurate is the statement from Adams.
Yup.... it's because the US and Mexico needed Canada to land the 2026 World Cup. Canada Soccer's former pres is working as a higher up in FIFA these days afterall.....
Even more was when Ariel Helwani (UFC reporter but in Paris covering the Olympics), he asked Didier Drogba on camera about it, he seemed to laugh it off and it appeared to me he was suggesting it wasn't a big deal. "It's happened a few times". I asked Chelsea legend Didier Drogba today what he thought of the Canadian Women’s National Team getting caught using a drone to spy on Team New Zealand, and specifically if this is really common practice in football. His reaction & response may surprise you. 🎥 @CBCOlympics pic.twitter.com/eAhPTym83i— Ariel Helwani (@arielhelwani) July 26, 2024
Everybody was doing stuff against the evil eye at some point. I don't think there was any benefit to it, but since everybody was doing it...
i am of the opinion that this whole thing is not some huge deal (other than, for example, flouting a specific denial to traveling with drones, however accurate that is), but thats pretty stupid of adams. no american soccer "journalist" has any measurable backbone (and god knows everyone here would just attack a wynalda or a lalas if they bring it up) but someone that matters somewhere might have a couple of followup questions for tyler. if nothing else, the canadian fed should be highlighting that as much as humanly possible.
Funny thing to me is that they thought it was ok to ask for permission to bring their drones. It makes them look so out of touch with reality.
I'm a particularly idiosyncratic USMNT fan who cares about our team's final place in the table/standings in the CONCACAF WCQ Hex/Octagonal every four years. For years, I took great pride in the USMNT finishing first in the Hex in the 2006, 2010 and 2014 WCQ cycles. As relieved as I was to qualify for the 2022 WC and understanding of how young our squad was and how snakebit by injuries we were in 2021, it was a bit disappointing to see us finish 3rd in the Octagonal in the 2022 WCQ cycle. I bring this up because Canada boat-raced the rest of CONCACAF and finished first in the 2022 Ocho table, which stings a bit for me (again, I'm a competitive guy and clearly an idiosyncratic fan). How much of an advantage do we think this scandal gave the Canadian men's squad if what we're hearing about Herdman's tenure is true? Enough to get Canada a few extra points in the group to leapfrog Mexico and the US? Or do we think any advantage wasn't significant enough to make a difference in the table (i.e. Drogba's feedback)?
If by boat-raced, you mean that their keeper was on a tear and we had Steffen for half our games, then yeah, this is true. That was basically the difference between the US and Canada in the Ocho -- it was mostly keeping. Even taking good, old fashioned point, they finished tied with Mexico and only three points ahead of us over 14 games.
It's weird that they asked if they knew they were going to do it even if they said no. Bummer for Canada on the U20s. Looked like a pretty bad call on the red.
Appeal dismissed by ACAS. Canada are out of the Women's Olympic soccer tournament. The should have consumed performance enhancing drugs eaten bad food like the Chinese swimmers.
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Not necessarily. All they need is a win over Colombia and they will be guaranteed to go through despite the deduction.
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I'm sure everybody is looking for an advantage. Its like the sign stealing thing with the Astros in baseball. Stealing signs is as old as time. I literally read a book about it years ago and all the tricks teams used to use. Hell.....................do people remember that MLB sent out another warning about teams using their Apple watches or whatever to relay signals to players? Why did they do that? Because even after the Astros scandal, teams were still doing it!!! The Astros were made an example of because they had crossed a line. An imaginary line, but a line nonetheless. And Canada is now being made an example of. Teams had made official complaints to CONCACAF/FIFA about Canada's use of drones. Both on the men's and women's sides. For instance, Panama at the 2022 Women's CONCACAF championships. CONCACAF confirms 2022 complaint against Canada for alleged drone spying | CP24.com There was never enough real, solid evidence to "convict" Canada. But they kept doing it and were caught at the Olympics. They had to suffer the consequences. They were cheating and were caught. And in the grand scheme of things, Canada can still win the Gold medal here. The punishment might be bad for the coaches involved, but the players/team can still stay on track.
As Canada Spygate rumbles on, I find the culture-clash aspects fascinating - Olympic/Canadian ideals vs. the pragmatism (cynicism to some) that's more the norm in global soccer. Bielsa & Co. did something similar @ Leeds, but viewed rather differently:https://t.co/uOLNjBSkDA— Charles Boehm (@cboehm) July 31, 2024
Yeah, scouts have been sent to spy on training sessions for decades, which is why some were moved "behind closed doors" but using drones is taking it to a whole new level.
The level to which the Chinese have compromised WADA is ridiculous. I'm certain we've reached East-German-women-being-forced-to-get-pregnant levels of cheating.
Well, Leeds were sanctioned. And there are now specific rules in place about it. It wasn't drones that Leeds was using but sending a spy to the training ground. All of the comments from the opposing coaches are a little tongue-in-cheek. "Oh, WE would never do that." Maybe they wouldn't do exactly that. But everyone is doing a little bit of something to try to gain an advantage. Teams had complained about Canada's use of drones. They were caught. The coaching staff suffered the consequences, and the team suffered a points deduction. Sounds about right. But they gave them the points deduction KNOWING they could still advance. The points deduction will affect their pathway to the medal round. But they can still be on track to win a medal. So...................