What is the problem with Canada?

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by LouisianaViking07/09, Jun 11, 2016.

  1. bsky22

    bsky22 Red Card

    Dec 8, 2003
    I've heard MLS fans regularly say things like "it isnt MLS responsibility to help the USMNT." Apparently, not only are they trying to elevate the CanMNT, but it is a primary goal. Kinda weird.

     
  2. bsky22

    bsky22 Red Card

    Dec 8, 2003
    Interesting point???

     
  3. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Step 1: burn MLS to the ground
    Step 2: ??????
    Step 3: USMNT lifts the World Cup trophy
     
  4. Grumpy in LA

    Grumpy in LA Bringing It Since 1807™

    Sep 10, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Step 2 is “Profit.” Duh.
     
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  5. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
  6. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Good run for Canada, they’ve momentarily regained the unofficial kings of Concacaf label last held during the Ocho.
     
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  7. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Better team definitely won but first goal should have never occurred as a Foul through the back 20 Seconds earlier should have been whistled.
     
  8. bsky22

    bsky22 Red Card

    Dec 8, 2003
    I like step 1. Hundreds of steps between 1 and 3. Let me think about what is in between.
     
  9. The Clientele

    The Clientele Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Jun 25, 2005
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hat off to Canada. You guys had a fantastic tournament. Made the USA look amateurish in comparison.

    Love the sense of fight you alluded to.
     
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  10. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s true the 2016 US Copa America team was not very good. And failed to qualify for the World Cup shortly thereafter.
     
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  11. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    And it should stay that way. Don't you always complain if USMNT has MLS players on it?


    USMNT 2016 wasn't very good. We didn't have a single shot, at all, against Argentina in that semi and got run over 4-0. Canada gave Argentina a good game and missed some opportunities.

    I wouldn't doubt if Shaffelburg and Bombito leave soon to Europe. Oluwaseyi could be another one too.
     
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  12. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lil’ sensitive there champ. ;)
     
  13. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, Garber didn’t “choose” that. It’s the law. It’s illegal for the league to treat Canadians as domestics unless it’s the same for Albanians and Zimbabweans and everyone in between.

    We hashed that out on these boards when TFC came into the league.
     
  14. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Canada now has positive momentum heading into preparations for WC26.

    Concerns?

    Still have only scored 2 goals in 7 games under Marsch.

    1 goal in 11 v 11 soccer

    They benefitted from red cards that both Chile and Peru got in the group stages. Beat Venezuela on penalties.
    But that's the way soccer goes. You take advantage of what the game gives you. Survive and advance is the name of the game in these tournaments. Canada did that and lost to the better team in the semi. No shame in that. [Argentina being better than everyone.]

    I still think Jesse Marsch is a charlatan, though. This "success" in the Copa doesn't change my opinion on that. He'll get found out.
    [That also doesn't mean I think Berhalter is better than him.]
     
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  15. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    They need a new guy up top because Larin isn't cutting it.
     
  16. PhilipVU94

    PhilipVU94 Member

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Jul 6, 2024
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How much momentum can be expected to carry over to a tournament two years from now?
     
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  17. DrunkOffPunch

    DrunkOffPunch Member

    United States
    Jul 14, 2020
    Domestic doesn’t mean citizen/eligible to represent the country. All you need to be considered a US domestic in MLS is a green card. No Canadian is losing opportunities to play for US MLS teams and if the rules were to change tomorrow it would have little to no impact on Canadian players.
     
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  18. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That too…green cards are very easy to get.

    What’s the going rate for an international slot? It’s less than $100K I’m pretty sure.
     
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  19. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Especially as they're only going to be playing CONCACAF teams and minor nations while the rest of the world is trying to qualify.
     
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  20. bsky22

    bsky22 Red Card

    Dec 8, 2003
    That wasn't the point.

    I love a good bigsoccer flex. Really funny stuff.
     
  21. Potowmack

    Potowmack Member+

    Apr 2, 2010
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, it’s not. MLS’ American teams can’t give preferential treatment to Canadian players over other nationalities. That would violate Federal anti-discrimination laws.
     
  22. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Some people like him won't get it. I understand where he is coming from cause I have had those same inquiries including counting green card holders as "domestic players". I have had my issues with that but there has to come a point you understand that this isn't something MLS does on purpose. It's US law.
     
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  23. Potowmack

    Potowmack Member+

    Apr 2, 2010
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, it comes up repeatedly on these threads. I suspect MLS would be fine with treating Canadian players as domestic players for roster purposes. But their lawyers told them no.
     
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  24. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    #7124 Robert Borden, Jul 11, 2024
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2024
    Bill Manning is out as President of MLSE & Toronto FC effective today

    Why today... and what happened yesterday?
    Forge beats Toronto FC 2-1


    Forge wishing a "happy 4th of July" to Toronto FC on social media was gold!:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
  25. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jul 8, 2017
    Given MLS' single entity structure, wonder if they could open up a separate legal entity based in Canada and employ Canadian players through there?
     

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