What is the problem with Canada?

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by LouisianaViking07/09, Jun 11, 2016.

  1. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Both.

    He was good enough to play for Montreal which would have helped his development but they wouldn't play him.

    His ego was too much as well, he thought he was way more ahead than he truly was. Barca B gave him opportunities including loans to Liga 2 Albacete.

    Definately a bit of both
     
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  2. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Marcus Godinho? :ROFLMAO:
     
  3. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Canadian news

    Canadian Premier League Expansion news
    According to reliable sources, a Bundesliga club may be involved in a possible CPL expansion bid based in the Fraser Valley in British Columbia. (Most likely Surrey or Langley)

    3 major German clubs
    (Borussia Dortmund, Werder Bremen, and Bayern Munich) are currently linked with the possibility that the Bundesliga governing body (the DFL) being also directly involved.
    A bit of a follow up on 17 years old Aribim Pepple who joined Cavalry at 16. His manager Tommy Wheeldon Jr. confirmed that he's unlikely to come back to CPL as clubs from EPL, La Liga and Bundesliga registered their interest in Pepple. He turns 18 this coming Christmas and might be transfered the for the next window.

    Germany
    DFB Pokal
    Alphonso Davies
    played the full 90 for Bayern Munich in a 3-0 win over Duren

    Bundesliga
    Alphonso Davies only played the extra time in a 4-1 win over Arminia Bielefeld

    France
    Jonathan David played the full 90 in the northern derby for Lille in a 4-0 win over Lens

    England
    Junior Hoilett played the full 90 for Cardiff City in a 1-0 win over Preston

    Liverpool has opted to keep 20 years old CF Liam Millar at the U23 team which he captains.

    18 years old forward Theo Corbeanu has signed a new 3 years deal with Wolverhampton Wolves. While becoming a key member of the U23 squad, he's been invited to train with the 1st team.

    Portugal
    M Stephen Eustaquio played the full 90 for Pacos de Ferreira in a 2-1 win over Santa Clara

    CB Steven Vitoria played the full 90 for Moreirense in a 0-0 tie with Belenenses SAD

    Scotland
    M Scott Arfield played a solid 90 minutes for Rangers in a crucial 2-0 win over Celtic.

    M David Wotherspoon scored a goal in a 5-3 win for St. Johnstone over Hamilton Academical.

    M Harry Paton played a 88 minutes for Ross County in a 0-0 tie with Hibernian

    Norway
    LB Sam Adekugbe played the full 90 for Valerenga in a 3-0 win over Sandefjord

    Serbia
    GK Milan Borjan started for Belgrade Red Star in a 1-1 tie against Partizan Beograd

    Poland
    RW Kris Twardek made his debut for his club Jagiellonia Białystok following his transfer and played 18 minutes in a 2-1 win over Lech Poznan

    MLS standout
    • CF Lucas Cavallini is back in form and has been just as clinical as he was in Liga MX
    • GK Dayne St. Clair continues to impress with his excellent performances for Minnesota in goal.
    • CPL players in MLS : GK James Pantemis who came back from his loan to CPL (Winnipeg) Valour FC earned his 1st MLS win against Inter Miami. His teammate CB Joel Waterman had a solid performance denying the equalizer to Higuain at the end of the game. Montreal acquired him from (Calgary) Cavalry last year for ~$100k
     
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  4. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Canadian news

    Canadian Premier League - CONCACAF League
    For a second straight year, CPL Champions (Hamilton) Forge FC advanced to the Round of 16 by eliminating C.D Municipal Limeno 2-1 in El Salvador. They will face Tauro FC on November 3rd in Panama
    Expansion news
    According to sources, CPL are looking to add up to 4 expansion teams in 2022. The 2 cities who are in advance stage are Quebec City, Quebec and Waterloo, Ontario.

    Champions League
    Alphonso Davies played 7 minutes in a 4-0 win for Bayern Munich over Altético Madrid.

    Europa League
    Scott Arfield
    played the full 90 for Rangers in a 2-0 win against Standard Liège

    Jonathan David
    played 63 minutes for Lille in a 4-1 win over Sparta Prague

    Milan Borjan had the start in a 2-0 loss for Belgrade Red Star against Hoffenheim

    England
    Junior Hoilett
    played the full 90 with an assist for Cardiff City in a 1-1 tie against Bournemouth.
     
  5. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    #3530 Robert Borden, Oct 26, 2020
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2020
    Canadian news
    Weekend edition

    Germany
    LB Alphonso Davies will be out 6 to 8 weeks with an ankle injury.

    France
    F Jonathan David played the final 11 minutes for Lille in a 1-1 tie against Nice.

    Turkey
    DM Atiba Hutchinson and Cyle Larin played the full 90 for Besiktas and each scored a goal in a 3-2 win against Denizlispor.
    Portugal
    DM Stephen Eustaquio played the full 90 for Pacos de Ferreira and scored a goal in a 1-1 tie against Nacional
    CB Steven Vitoria played the full 90 for Moreirense in a 2-1 win over Maritimo

    England
    LW Junior Hoilett played the final 4 minutes in a 1-1 tie with Middlesbrough

    F Liam Millar scored for Liverpool U23 against Chelsea U23.

    Scotland
    CM Scott Arfield played the final 15 minutes for Rangers in a 2-0 win against Livingston.


    CM David Wotherspoon played the full 90 for St. Johnstone in a 0-0 tie with Dundee United

    CM Harry Paton played 62 minutes for Ross County in a 4-0 loss to Motherwell

    Norway
    LB Sam Adekugbe played the full 90 for Valerenga in a 1-1 tie against Kritiansund

    Serbia
    GK Milan Borjan kept a clean sheet for Red Star Belgrade in a 0-0 tie against Javor

    Poland
    RW Kris Twardek played 84 minutes for Jagiellonia Bialystok in a 1-0 loss to Slask Wroclaw

    CONCACAF League
    Forge FC
    has arrived to Panama City ahead of their match against Tauro FC who are the favorites this time. Tauro had eliminated FC Dallas in 2018 from the Champions League
     
  6. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Canadian news

    Europa League
    CM Scott Arfield played 81 minutes for Rangers in a 1-0 win over Lech Poznan

    F Jonathan David
    played 64 minutes for Lille in a 2-2 tie against Celtic

    GK Milan Borjan
    had the start for Belgrade in a 5-1 win over Slovan Liberec

    Portugal
    M Stephen Eustaquio scored a goal and was the man of the match in a 3-1 win against FC Porto - He tore their midfield apart and will be one to watch for a move to a stronger club. The 23 years old is the present and Canada's future at midfield
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    England
    LW Junior Hoilett
    played the full 90 for Cardiff City in a 1-1 tie against Derby County

    Poland
    M Kris Twardek played 64 minutes for Jagiellonia Bialystok in a 3-0 loss to Pogon Szczecin

    CONMEBOL Sudamericana
    RB Juan Cordovà
    played the full 90 for Huachipato (Chile) in a 3-1 loss to Fenix (Uruguay)

    MLS standout of the week
    GK Dayne St. Clair is making a serious case for the national team by helping Minnesota win this week
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    National Team
    The CSA has cancelled it's November games following Health Canada recommendation
     
  7. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    so how good is Atiba still? dude is 37 right?

    just a frickin shame he never played in a top 5 league
     
  8. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Most European continental appearances in the history of CONCACAF I believe........................

    He's up over 100 now. Only one year since 2005 did he fail to appear in a European competition.
     
  9. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Weekend news

    France
    F Jonathan David played in the extra time for Lille in a 1-1 tie against Lyon

    England
    LW Junior Hoilett played the entire second half for Cardiff City in a 3-2 loss against Queen's Park

    Turkey
    M Atiba Hutchinson & Cyle Larin played the full 90 for Besiktas in a 1-0 win over Yeni Malatyaspor. Larin had the winning goal
    Scotland
    M Scott Arfield played the full 90 for Rangers in a 1-0 win over Kilmarnock

    M Harry Paton
    played 24 minutes for Ross County in a 2-1 loss to Dundee United

    Portugal
    CB Steven Vitoria played the full 90 for Moreirense in a 2-0 loss to Rio Ave

    Serbia
    GK Milan Borjan had the start for Belgrade in a 4-1 win over FK Radnik Surdulica


    Norway

    LB Sam Adekugbe played the full 90 for Valerenga in a 2-0 win over Stromsgodset

    Denmark
    CB Manjrekar James played the full 90 for Midtjylland in a 4-1 loss to Nordsjaelland
     
  10. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  11. Three and Three

    Three and Three Member+

    Sep 13, 2015
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Keep on going, Robert. Your reports are killer, your team a noble rival, i.e., a threatening pain in the ass. Long live intense, healthy competition.
     
  12. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Special news!!!

    CONCACAF League
    Historic win for the back to back Canadian Premier League Champions!


    Forge FC defeated Tauro FC 2-1 in Panama City and qualified for the CONCACAF League Quarter-Finals. This is the same club that had eliminated FC Dallas in 2018.
    Only Forge FC of Canada and America of Mexico defeated Tauro in Panama City in a CONCACAF tournament in recent years.

    Forge FC coach Bobby Smyrniotis coaching deserve tons of credit for these results. He founded Sigma FC which developed of Cyle Larin and Ritchie Laryea.

    They will face the winner between Jamaica's Waterhouse or Haiti's Arcahaie in the Quarter-Finals. If Forge wins, they would qualify for the 2021 Champions League.

    If they lose, they would face the loser of the other Quarter-Finals with the winner qualifying to the 2021 Champions League
     
  13. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Canadian news

    Europa League

    F Jonathan David
    played the full 90 and picked up a brilliant assist for Lille in a 3-0 win over AC Milan & Ibrahimovic giving the club their worst defeat in their European football competition.
    M Scott Arfield played 21 minutes for Rangers in a 3-3 tie with Benfica after a huge comeback from them after being down 1 man.

    GK Milan Borjan kept his team in the game with 6 saves and earned a 2-1 win for Belgrade over Gent.

    England
    LW Junior Hoilett played the full 90 and scored a goal for Cardiff City in a 3-0 win over Barnsley

    CONCACAF League
    CPL Champions Forge FC will face Arcahaie FC of Haiti in the quarterfinals of the tournament. All we know is that it should sometime in December and it will be in Santo Domingo.

    A victory would automatically qualify them into the 2021 CONCACAF Champions League.*

    Further proof that CONCACAF needs to revamp their competitions - Forge might be playing in both 2021 CL and CCL
     
  14. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    So Larin is for sure a starter for Besiktas now right? I'm curious to see if he and Cavillini both start or whether one will take preference over the other.
     
  15. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    #3540 Robert Borden, Nov 6, 2020
    Last edited: Nov 6, 2020
    For now he is. There were rumors that Besiktas was still planning to sell him but they'd have to be reconsidering now. My critic of Larin was that he was very uni-dimensional when he left MLS and it showed the 1st time in Turkey. When he went to Belgium, he expanded his game and became an excellent playmaker. Now, he's thriving in Turkey again as a winger. This gives Hurdman so many more options in the make up of a Canada starting XI.

    You now have 3 strong guys who can play LW : Davies, Hoilett and Larin. A few minutes ago...he can't stop scoring!

    Jonathan David
    To answer your question, I can see Herdman alternating between both Larin and Cavallini but it depends how he views Jonathan David and if he still wants him as a #9. Personally, if he's used as a #10 for Canada, we have easily one of the best midfield in the region with Arfield, Hutchinson, Eustaquio, Osorio, Piette and Kaye.

    What people need to understand about David is that he's a natural Attacking Midfielder first and foremost. While in Belgium, he happened to become a great striker. He still got into slumps from time to time but the coach was quick to move him back and forth to keep him going.

    Lille seems to want him to be a striker like Victor Osihmen. That's just not going to happen since David plays a very different type of football and Lille doesn't play the system maximizing David's strengths. He was never the guy who could dribble his way into the final third and bury it. As a striker, he reads the play perfectly, makes the right runs and is on point with his positioning while pressuring the defense.

    The game against AC Milan was his best game in France and by no coincidence. Galtier deployed the 4-2-3-1 for the 1st time and David was playing much better and served a brilliant pass.

    Lille as a whole is a much better team with David in the lineup and I think Galtier is starting to figure out how best to use him. Can't let his playmaking skills go to waste.

    Timothy Weah
    This will interest our USMNT friends. David should have scored yesterday - at least 2 times. The other issues at Lille is the very poor decision making at midfield by the other two Jonathans - Ikone & Bamba. Those F'ers are selfish M'Fers. They try to dribble with the ball and lose it or will shot at anything instead of looking to pass the ball. This has left David so many time perfectly unmarked and nothing happened but they try to pass him the ball (aka get rid of it) when he's marked.

    These 2 are massively contributing in the sabotage of Tim Weah because he had opportunities and those 2 simply choose to ignored him. That's unfortunate, rivalries aside - I never wish ill-fortune on a young player. With David having a much longer leash than Weah will ever have, he's the one paying for it.
     
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  16. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think a more confident striker would have taken a shot but it's good that he's creating chances.
     
  17. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I'd disagree with that, that was absolutely the right play to make and he read the situation perfectly.
     
  18. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    #3543 Robert Borden, Nov 9, 2020
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2020
    Canadian weekend news

    France
    F Jonathan David played 24 minutes for Lille in a 3-2 loss to Brest. Lille sits 2nd overall behind PSG in the Champions League zone. This was their 1st loss since the beginning of the season.


    England

    LW Junior Hoilett played 77 minutes for Cardiff City in a 1-0 loss to Bristol City. Cardiff are now 15th overall in Championship, 6 points behind promotion playoffs.

    20 years old Liam Millar who captains Liverpool U23 has been doing very well. He scored another this weekend against West Ham U23 and has been Man of the match 8 times in the last 10 games. There's hopes for a loan deal at the winter window.


    Turkey
    M Atiba Hutchinson played the full 90 while F Cyle Larin played 72 minutes and scored a goal for Besiktas in a 3-1 loss against Gaziantep. Besiktas is having a slow start and sits at the 11th place of the Super Lig.
    Scotland

    M Scott Arfield played 74 minutes and had a goal and an assist for Rangers in an 8-0 win over Hamilton Academical. Rangers are abolutely dominating SPL and are favorites to dethrone Celtic. They are 9 points ahead of them at the top.
    M David Wotherspoon played the 67 minutes for St. Johnstone in a 1-0 win over Kilmarnock.


    M Harry Paton played the full 90 for Ross County in a 1-1 tie with Livingstone.

    Norway

    LB Sam Adekugbe played the full 90 for Valerenga in a 2-0 win over Odd. They are in the Europa league zone holding the 4th spot.

    Serbia
    GK Milan Borjan had the start in a 3-2 win over Indija. Unsurprisingly, they are 1st overall in the Champions League spot.


    Poland

    M Kris Twardek played the last 9 minutes for J. Bialystok in a 3-1 loss to Cracovia. His club is 8th overall, 6 points behind a Europa berth.

    CONCACAF League
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    CPL Champions Forge FC
    will face Arcahaie FC from Haiti on December 1st and 1 win away from a qualification into the 2021 Champions League. Arcahaie FC qualified for the Concacaf League after a third-place finish during the group stage of the 2020 Concacaf Caribbean Club Championship.

    MLS standouts
    CF Lucas Cavallini found his form and scored a nice goal last night. He's absolutely lethal when he gets good service. Interestingly enough, he still has European aspirations, I thought that would be easier had he stayed in Liga MX.
    GK Dayne St. Clair had a clean sheet in a 3-0 win over FC Dallas. Hard to tell where he fits on Canada's depth chart but if we do indeed have separate squads for WCQ, the Gold Cup & U23 Olympics - I'd bring him to the Gold Cup.
     
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  19. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    #3544 Robert Borden, Nov 22, 2020
    Last edited: Nov 22, 2020
    Canadian news

    France
    F Jonathan David played the full 90 for Lille and scored his first goal in Ligue 1 and got 1 assist in a 4-0 win over FC L'Orient. This was by far David's best game wearing the "Dogues" shirts with the second highest rating on the pitch. Lille are now 2 points behind PSG.
    Turkey

    Canadians have taken over Besiktas! Atiba Hutchinson played the full 90 and collected 1 goal and 1 assist while Cyle Larin played 65 minutes and scored 1 goal in a 3-2 win over Istanbul Basaksehir.

    Scotland
    M Scott Arfield played the full 90 and scored 1 goal and 1 assist for Rangers in an 4-0 win over Aberdeen.
    M David Wotherspoon played the full 90 for St. Johnstone in a 1-1 tie with Motherwell


    M Harry Paton played 69 minutes for Ross County in a 3-1 loss to Kilmarnock

    England

    LW Junior Hoilett played 61 minutes for Cardiff City in a 1-1 tie with Millwall

    F 18 years old Theo Corbeanu who's already been training with the 1st team is the best player on the U23 squad according to his manager. Looks like he might make the first team if he keeps this up. He's all in for Canada.

    F Liam Millar was the man of the match yet again for Liverpool U23 as the captain of the squad with Klopp watching the game closely.

    https://www.thisisanfield.com/2020/11/jurgen-klopp-watches-on-as-injuries-cloud-liverpool-u23s-draw/

    Portugal
    M Stephen Eustaquio played 93 minutes for Pacos de Ferreira in a 4-0 win against UD Oliveirense in the 3rd round of the Domestic Cup


    CB Steven Vitoria played the full 90 for Moirerense in a 1-0 win over Merelinense in the 3rd round of the Domestic Cup

    Germany

    23 years old CB Scott Kennedy started for Jahn Regensburg in 2. Bundesliga and played 59 minutes (exiting due to minor injury) in a 3-1 loss to Greuther Furth. We will be following his progress closely as there's a need at Centre-Back for Canada.

    Norway

    Another solid game for LB Sam Adekugbe who played the full 90 for Valerenga in a 1-1 tie with Aalesund. The club climbs to third place in the Europa League berth.

    Belgium

    The 22 years old striker Charles-Andres Brym played 29 minutes for Royal Excel Mouscron in a 4-1 loss to Genk

    Serbia

    GK Milan Borjan got the clean sheet for Belgrade Red Star in a 2-0 win against Vojvodina

    18 years old midfielder Stefan Mitrovic
    played 61 minutes for Radnicki Nis in a 1-0 loss to Indija.

    Canadian Men's National team
    According to multiple sources, Canada will play this January in Panama in a friendly to prepared them for the World Cup Qualifiers. If true, playing in CONCACAF is the best way to prepare the team who will need results in Central America if it hopes to qualify.

    Canadian Premier League - CONCACAF League

    After 2 weeks on mandatory quarantine in Hamilton following their historic win in Panama City, Forge FC has arrived in the Dominican Republic. They will be facing Haiti's Arcahaie FC where a win would qualify them to the 2021 CCL.

    Canadian Premier League - League News

    Chile National Team are following the CPL
    Interestingly enough, the Chile National team has reach out to the 2020 MVP finalist Marco Bustos letting him know that they are following his progress in CPL and are interested in calling him up. Bustos has yet to be capped by Canada for whom he is still eligible.

    Roster Rules

    The league made public an interesting roster rule that will be effective next season. It will now be mandatory for all clubs to sign a minimum of 4 Internationals. Those players will have to come from or be approved by the league's centralized scouting agency run by 21st club.

    Canadian Soccer Association
    Nick Bontis has been elected the new president of Canada Soccer, taking over from Steven Reed. Bontis became a vice president when Reed was elected in 2017. He helped draft the CSA strategic plan that helped Canada turn around after 2014. We might see new ideas coming from him but I don't expect that he will "rock" the foundation of the CSA like Montagliani did in his tenure.
     
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  20. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    Larin is tied for third or fourth in Turkey, one goal off of the leaders.
     
  21. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    nice
     
  22. CANPRO

    CANPRO Member+

    Dec 23, 2002
    Still waiting for a CB that doesn't suck to emerge.....I thought Callum Montogemery might emerge this season. If we're going to get anywhere, we need an upgrade at the CB position.
     
  23. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    damn shame Cavillini never tried his luck in EUrope
     
  24. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Ziegler is presumably leaving from FCD after this season.
    So it'll be interesting to see if the job is handed over to Montgomery or if they bring in a new guy.
    FCD also has a young American named Justin Che who they're really high on, but he's a little too young. [FCD does have a history of drafting Canadians and then not developing them. :) Tesho Akindele was a success story.]

    What Canada is working on and just takes time, is depth. David, Davies, etc. are awesome.
    They can't do it by themselves. Just like Pulisic couldn't do it by himself for the US in 2018.

    This stat just came out showing the US is 10th in the world in terms of minutes given to U23s in top 5 leagues.
    If this chart was expanded to top 50, we'd see Canada as a significant mover up the charts.
     
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  25. CANPRO

    CANPRO Member+

    Dec 23, 2002
    Toronto FC have two young, homegrown, strong CBs, who I think could step in and do the job in MLS and add to the CMNT depth chart. Unfortunately, that's easier said than done with a team like TFC....
     

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