What is the problem with Canada?

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  1. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Sir Robert, I was informed elsewhere that friendlies have some value in FIFA rankings even when not in FIFA windows. Doesn't sound right to me. Maybe they count outside window if sanctioned by FIFA?

    Thought maybe you would have some knowledge on that considering your delicate position in FIFA rankings at mom?
     
  2. LordofBrewtown

    Wigan Athletic
    United States
    Nov 19, 2018
    They have less value; but, still do count. Per FIFA, weighting of results:
    Friendly outside FIFA window: 5
    Friendly in FIFA window: 10
    Nations League group phase: 15
    Nations League Playoffs/final: 25
    Confed/World Cup qualifiers: 25
    Confed final until Quarters: 35
    Confed knockouts quarters to final: 40
    World Cup group/up to round of 8: 50
    World Cup quarters, semis, final: 60

    So the friendlies outside the window are worth half a normal friendly
     
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  3. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I know that if we win all 3 games against Iceland and Barbados, we gain around 6 points.
     
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  4. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    2 CPL players started today against Barbados. CPL MVP Tristan Borges and Amer Didic who ended up scoring.
     
  5. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    tks, Sir Robert. Always appreciate your input.
     
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  6. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    El Salvador is at 1346 pts
    If we beat Iceland, we'll be 9 pts behind IMG_20200110_214514.jpg
     
  7. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    With the March window as the "decider"?
     
  8. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    We have until june to pass them I think. I think Soccer Canada will schedule as many games it can until then while El Salvador doesn't do much
     
  9. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    With a playoff in the offing, I've heard.

    Not sure how that happens before Sep when the Hex begins.

    Edit: just remembered that happens at the end of the Hex vs. #4 in the Hex. Maybe you'll see us again. I predict we finish 4th in Hex
     
  10. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    We're going to get CONMEBOL and the entire #4 of the Hex vs. winner of the long and winding road becomes moot.
     
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  11. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  12. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
     
  13. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    And now David is linked to France's Olympique Lyonnais
     
  14. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Ajax would be the best destination IMO.
     
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  15. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  16. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Alessandro Busti was perhaps the future keeper for Canada when he was at Juventus reserves. Looks like Sebastien Breza might be it if this happens.
     
  17. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Joel Waterman from Cavalry will become the 1st CPL player sold to an MLS club, Montreal Impact. Actually thought this was hilarious...
     
  18. Potowmack

    Potowmack Member+

    Apr 2, 2010
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Historically, USL teams have kept their players on one-year contracts, so MLS teams could just wait until those contracts ran out if they wanted to sign USL players. And many (most?) USL teams are affiliated with MLS teams anyway, and are full of players that have some sort of contract or connection with an MLS team. So, pretty different situations.
     
  19. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Somebody doesn't know how the USL works, clearly.

    It's not just 2nd teams like NYRB II that pass players onto MLS for free. Teams like Reno 1868 are among the USL teams who are *basically* MLS feeder teams. And while Akanyirige, Cowell, or Fuentes get time in Reno, when SJ calls them back, they're not going to be paying Reno for the privilege.
     
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  20. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    He's not questioning the level of play or quality at all which he reiterated on his podcast this morning, but the "business model" of losing all those guys for nothing (excluding affiliates, just independent clubs)

    Podcast that I recommend, it's mostly about MLS
     
  21. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Eh, I guess.

    USL doesn't seem to be too weird of a model. They remind me of AAA/AA/A baseball teams. And USLC/USL1/USL2 match up nicely as minor leagues.

    I think the USL teams that are independent (e.g St. Louis, Detroit, Madison, etc.) should be in their own league(s), and the MLS 2nd teams/MLS affiliates should be in their own. Though, it should be noted that the Germans and Dutch have "II" and Jong teams below their senior teams. OTOH, England has its own EPL U23 league.

    USL is in a weird spot. Most of the bigger clubs have been snapped up by MLS, and competing in the US soccer market is tough when MLS has such a large footprint now. CPL was smart to expand into the gaps in between the 3 Canadian MLS teams (aside from Pacific FC, I assume).

    I'm not sure that's something the USL can overcome. As MLS popularity grows, not sure how USL clubs are going to get butts in seats.
     
  22. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Now official. Joel Waterman from Cavalry becomes the 1st CPL player to sign with MLS in Montreal. It is believed that he was sold for $100k (~$75k US). In comparison, Montreal acquired Samuel Piette from Izarra, Spain for €60k and LAFC got MA Kaye for $50k US
    1217184477710929920 is not a valid tweet id
     
  23. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  24. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Looks like the Canadian Premier League are in advance stage of bringing a club to Ottawa with its first foreign ownership.

    The rumors points to Rastar Group who owns RCD Espanyol from La Liga
     
  25. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada

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