What is a moderate?

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  1. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

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    As a registered Independant, I like to look at a candidate's record and their position on issues I am interested in to gauge whether I should vote for them, not at their party. There are things I agree with both liberals and conservatives and things I disagree with.
    Are people becoming more moderate and what is your definition of being a moderate? I think the more accurate term for someone like me is independant.
     
  2. GringoTex

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    Most U.S. politics are moderate, but few of the practitioners are independent.
     
  3. SoFla Metro

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    Jul 21, 2000
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    moderate, liberal and conservative are all in the eye of the beholder.

    I imagine Ralph Nader, for example, would consider me fairly moderate whereas Colin Grabow probably thinks I'm a bleeding heart knee-jerk liberal. I, for what it's worth, consider myself comfortably left of center.

    As to your question, I think that as our two major political parties become more and more homogenous, people do tend to drift more towards the center.

    I think your definition of yourself (that is, finding that you agree with liberal viewpoints on some things and conservative viewpoints on some things) would be a good definition of "moderate" (though I'm perfectly happy to call you independent if you prefer)
     
  4. SoFla Metro

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    One question I just thought of: Are you registered "Independent" or are you registered "No Party Affiliation?"

    Big difference.
     
  5. cossack

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    If that's the case, what is the Independent platform (in political science circles)?
     
  6. GringoTex

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    Smoke a lot of weed and shoot your firearms daily.
     
  7. SoFla Metro

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    I'd be lying if I say I knew. I'll see if I can dig anything up.
     
  8. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
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    Really?!? Maybe I made a mistake registering NPA instead of Independent...
     
  9. oman

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    Jan 7, 2000
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    Re: Re: What is a moderate?

    Nader thinks I am somewhat of prattling nincompoop.

    But interestingly, Grabow thinks I am a rather sexy, swarthy hardbody.
     
  10. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
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    Re: Re: Re: What is a moderate?

    Colin has so far resisted the temptation to comment on my physical appearance.

    If it helps, I kind of think you're a nincompoop too ;)
     
  11. GringoTex

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    Help. My gaydar's broke.
     
  12. SoFla Metro

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    Give it a good whack on the side.
     
  13. Foosinho

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    Where do I sign?
     
  14. Father Ted

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    It was "No affiliation". The drawback of this is the possibility of being excluded from primaries (where I live).
     
  15. SoFla Metro

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    Jul 21, 2000
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    I originally registered NPA so I wouldn't get a whole lot of party nonsense in the mail. Of course I now get a whole lot of party nonsense in the mail from both sides, so I'm reconsidering.

    That, and the primaries.
     
  16. csc7

    csc7 New Member

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    by definition, independent doesn't have a platform because it means independent of any political party.

    there are 3rd parties and Ross Perot's party tried to call themselves the "Independent party" it's a contradiction in terms. Perot tended right and was strictly anti free trade.

    Nader's 3rd party, the Green is significantly left.

    there is no "moderate" party, though there is the centrist coalition in the senate. however this is more of a legislative organization than a political party (considering it is composed of Rs and Ds)
     
  17. SoFla Metro

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    Perot's party was the "Reform Party"

    The "Independent Party" or "American Independent Party" is an actual political party. If you put "Independent" under party affiliation on your voter registration card, this is what you're signing up for.

    The American Independent Party (of California anyway) does indeed have a platform, but I don't really have a huge interest in reading it. Here's the link.

    http://www.aipca.org/Platform/platform.html
     
  18. joseph pakovits

    joseph pakovits New Member

    Apr 29, 1999
    fly-over country
  19. csc7

    csc7 New Member

    Jul 3, 2002
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    you're right. thanks for the info. though i think in most states, registering as an independent means you choose not to join a party. i still think independent party is a contridiction in terms.
     
  20. SoFla Metro

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    I particularly like the part about a "debt free money system"
     
  21. superdave

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    Exactly. Registering "independent" so that the parties won't bother you is the most foolish thing you can do. It's like covering yourself in honey so that ants won't bother you.
     
  22. superdave

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    Wasn't this George Wallace's party in '68?
     
  23. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

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    From a junk mail perspective I would tend to agree with you. As for the most foolish thing I could do, this isn't even close :D
     
  24. SoFla Metro

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    Jul 21, 2000
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    No idea. The link I provided was actually for a California party, which is apparently the local affiliate of the Constitution Party.
     

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