I caught nearly an hour of the ANSWER-sponsored protest in DC yesterday on C-SPAN. It was fascinating. From the speakers, I learned that: * We should free Mumia; * We should free Peltier; * Women in Iraq had it pretty good until the United States messed it up for them in 1991; * Jews have no right to be in Israel...er, Palestine * Queers for Peace & Justice (a real group) think that the United States is a much worse place than Iraq; * People of color are over-represented among front line troops in the US military; * We should free the Cuban 5, who are currently in solitary confinement to silence their dissent against the war in Iraq; * We are engaged in a war of agression against Cuba, where there is more justice than in the United States; * The Philippines is currently being re-colonized by the United States; * The Larry Holmes that spoke was not a boxer. I turned it off when Mr. Holmes started yammering on, disappointed that the real Larry Holmes wasn't there to knock the shit out of him. Interestingly, not a single person mentioned weapons of mass destruction. The ANSWER organizers apparently forgot the question.
Yea, this pretty much confirms that they want no peace. Rather, they want to roast Bush, and to obviously further their own disgusting liberal agendas. I wonder if ANSWER thinks we should free John Walker Lindh or Khalid Sheihk Mohammed? I wonder if 'Queers for "Peace and Justice"' have ever been inside one of Saddam's torture chambers? I think they should visit one seeing as how the Kurd's mustard gas altered DNA ins't convincing enough for them. On a separate note we should not: Free Mumia Free Peltier ---- Liberal says: "hey i saw rage's "freedom" video, so i know the facts" wrong ANSWER
War sceptics like myself don't give a toss about this, since I don't have any time for these leftist groups. (even though my opinion coincides with theirs on this specific issue) It isn't just Trotskyites who are anti-war, So this is why the "silence is deafening".
While I am not in favor of this military action the people and their issues listed are why I could never be a part of a "peace" movement. HEck I kind to want to go to war just to piss these people off.
WakeUp, You missed the previous rally where the US was said to be responsible for the lack of social justice in Colombia and the Bush administration sabotaged Paul Wellstone's plane.
I heard the opposite that the Democrates sabotaged his plane because they thought he had very little chance to be reelected.
I went to the protests this weekend to observe. I don't really agree with the protestors on either side so I wasn't participating. TWUB is correct with the anti war rally, it was seriously off topic and misguided. That's why I can never get on their side of this, they really miss the point. However, the counter protestors were no better. Their slogan was "we gave peace a chance, we got 9/11." They tied Iraq to 9/11 and told me I hated America because I didn't support the war. Overall, a pretty sad display all around
I agree with you here. As a hawk, i tend to shake my head when the pro-us troop demonstrators speak because a lot of the time its just overgeneralized statements. However, i can't even believe the anti war protests. These people don't even deserve the microphone in their face. What with the tasteless Bush/Hitler comaprisons and all.
The rallies on both sides have a tendency to bring to the fore those who are most zealous and who have the most time on their hands. I haven't participated in anything except a few quiet marches because of the above-mentioned "message drift." It is a huge mistake and a sad generalization -- therefore completely unsurprising coming from TW-UB, Manny, and Rich -- to confuse the sad, no-life axe-grinders who step up to the microphone at a rally organized by an ad-hoc coalition with the misgivings held by the majority of Americans with regards to the war.
I think I was being fairly clear that I was targeting the ANSWER organizers. I actually felt some sympathy for the people in the crowd who simply wanted to protest the war, and didn't want to go to the "the US is the real enemy" rally that broke out.
I learned that I want to protest in Bulgaria. Lesbians, schmesbians... This is my kind of protester. For the French-impaired the caption reads (roughly): Miss Bulgaria, 2001, Tania Karabelova, mostly nude draped in the Bulgarian flag outside the U.S. Embassy yesterday in Sofia.
Ouch! Are you daft? Okay, okay, I'll grant you she's a bit too much on the bony side to peg my personal Babe-o-Meter. But NOT hot!? C'mon Dante, you gota throw down for at least a 7.5!
The question is what's percentage of the anti-war folks on the street shared the thoughts you listed above? 0.0000001% perhaps? This is purely right-wing smearing.