What do you consider "American Classics"?

Discussion in 'Books' started by M9fanatic, Nov 6, 2004.

  1. M9fanatic

    M9fanatic Member

    Oct 31, 2000
    North Side.
    Obviously Catcher in the Rye and To Kill a Mockingbird.

    What else? Why?
     
  2. Jose L. Couso

    Jose L. Couso New Member

    Jul 31, 2000
    Arlington, VA
    The Scarlet Letter, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, The Great Gatsby, Invisible Man & Beloved.
     
  3. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Henry David Thoreau: Walden
    Henry Adams: Education of Henry Adams
    Henry James: Daisy Miller
    Henry Miller Tropic of Cancer
     
  4. bojendyk

    bojendyk New Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    South Loop, Chicago
    Moby Dick (it all begins and ends there), Absalom, Absalom, The Great Gatsby, Leaves of Grass, The Waste Land.
     
  5. tog

    tog Member

    Oct 25, 2000
    Seattle

    There's a long list I would name before either of these, although they're both very important.
     
  6. tog

    tog Member

    Oct 25, 2000
    Seattle
    This is a good start.

    Some others that haven't been named (in whetever order they hit me in the head):


    Grapes of Wrath
    Uncle Tom's Cabin
    The Old Man and the Sea
    For Whom the Bell Tolls
    As I Lay Dying
    Bartleby the Scrivener
    Red Badge of Courage
    Invisible Man
    The Call of the Wild
    1984
    Lolita
    Catch-22
    A Farewell to Arms
    Of Mice and Men

    Man, so many more. It's hard to think of them at once...
     
  7. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
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    I know its de riguer to trash it now, but On the Road.

    I'd put it ahead of Catcher in the Rye anyway.
     
  8. Jose L. Couso

    Jose L. Couso New Member

    Jul 31, 2000
    Arlington, VA
    Great list.

    Unfortunately (or fortunately ;)) America is not part of Ocenania, at least not yet! ;)
     
  9. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    Hey, that was a double-plus unbad catch.

    [/kicking self for missing it]
     
  10. tog

    tog Member

    Oct 25, 2000
    Seattle

    Ouch. I can't believe I did that. I'm going to crawl into a hole now.

    I was just popping them out of my head, and 1984 got thrown in there. Perhaps because it seems so relevant here. I'll make up for it when I add to the list...or something.

    *crawls into hole*
     
  11. M9fanatic

    M9fanatic Member

    Oct 31, 2000
    North Side.
    Catcher is excellent and has become important standard HS reading for it's controversy as much as for the book itself.

    However IMO Mockingbird is about the most relevent of American novels for American's based on it's message. I dunno if i'm explaining myself right... IMO it's social comentary is incredibly powerfull and should be mandatory American HS reading because of it.
     
  12. tog

    tog Member

    Oct 25, 2000
    Seattle
    Yes, that's my point. They're both very good high school novels. And there's nothing wrong with that; I don't mean it pejoratively at all. But what we're discussing is the entire canon of "American classics." I think, on that list, they fall much farther down.

    I think Salinger was a better short story writer than a novelist.

    As for Mockingbird, it's a perfectly good novel--and very important--but there are many, many, many novels that provide outstanding social commentary and critique. Many do it better, and less bluntly, than this.

    I was just responding to your "Obviously..." statement, which made it sound as if those led the list of great American books, which I think is far from the case in most people's minds.
     
  13. M9fanatic

    M9fanatic Member

    Oct 31, 2000
    North Side.
    Oh, I meant the "obviously" as in being the standard. Its what we are taught in HS. Very few read recreationaly at that age and those books introduce most young Americans to "real" literature. So i began the list there. But i understand what your saying.
     
  14. tog

    tog Member

    Oct 25, 2000
    Seattle
    I think these two need repeating.

    I think I'm going to re-read "The Waste Land" very, very soon.
     
  15. Iceblink

    Iceblink Member

    Oct 11, 1999
    Chicago
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    Actually, America was part of Oceania; that's why they used dollars. But Orwell was, of course, a writer from Airstrip One. Though I believe he was born in India, which, I believe, would be part Eurasia.

    I tell ya though. One would think it's an American novel, since American is certainly becoming more and more like the 1984 that Orwell warned us about.
     
  16. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Man, its amazing how many of these classics I hated while in high school. And I mean HATED. Especially of the mid 19th century generation. *shudder*

    Give me Roth and Bonfire of the Vanities any day of the week.
     
  17. Danks81

    Danks81 Member

    May 18, 2003
    Philadelphia
    Damn straight. Read that baby in two sittings.

    My list off the top of my head:

    The Sound and the Fury
    The Great Gatsby
    Slaughterhouse Five
    Catch-22
    Liar's Poker
    Into the Wild


    The last two are more contemporary, personal favorites of mine that I wanna toss in there. Also, I feel obliged to contribute Old Man and the Sea, even though I have a very bipolar opinion on it.
     
  18. M9fanatic

    M9fanatic Member

    Oct 31, 2000
    North Side.
    Awakenings is on my list.
     
  19. bojendyk

    bojendyk New Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    South Loop, Chicago
    I assume you mean "David Lee" and not that "my best book was Goodbye, Columbus" fella. :D
     
  20. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    1301 miles de Texas
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    I dont think To Kill a Mockingbird has held up very well. It has an oversimplified message and is not even very-well written.

    No list is complete without Henry James (Portrait of a Lady). And it appears Thomas Wolfe (Look Homeward, Angel) has been all but forgotten.


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  21. Red&Black

    Red&Black Member+

    Aug 30, 2001
    Lot 8
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    John Dos Passos Trilogy
     
  22. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Is that the Kate Chopin work? Man, I hated that too. :D
     
  23. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Oh, nothin' wrong with American Pastoral or Human Stain.

    David Lee did have amazing lyrics like "Jump", however.
    Deep man. Deep.
     
  24. bojendyk

    bojendyk New Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    South Loop, Chicago
    Haven't read Human Stain. Didn't care for American Pastoral.

    The man has written a book, too. It's supposedly great in the way that interviews with Diamond Dave are great.

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  25. M9fanatic

    M9fanatic Member

    Oct 31, 2000
    North Side.
    yes it is... I'm not surprised you hate that. Anything forced on you as a 17 year old sucks. But that one i read in college for the first time. I loved everything but the last three pages. I was beyond pissed at the end.

    so is it everything from the 19th century?
     

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