What do we need to happen to advance?

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by keeper1031, Jun 17, 2009.

  1. keeper1031

    keeper1031 Member

    Jul 5, 2006
    Cbus ohio
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Question is in the title
     
  2. england66

    england66 Member+

    Jan 6, 2004
    dallas, texas
  3. Trequartista10

    Apr 10, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At the very least tie tomorrow, and have Italy and Egypt tie, or Egypt win, which won't happen, so why are we worrying about it?
     
  4. Nermalthecat

    Nermalthecat Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    Avon, CT
    Actually, even a loss doesn't eliminate us if Egypt beats Italy. That's by far the best result for us in that game.

    That said, the chance of advancing without a win tomorrow is almost nil. I'm pretty sure Brazil and Italy (and FIFA) can, er, manage a result in the final game that would put them both through, if it's in their control (e.g. Egypt doesn't win tomorrow).

    I just hope we try to take the game at them a bit and don't Iraq it. If this were the World Cup? Sure, try for a point at all costs. In an exhibition event? Play the game.
     
  5. Crazy_Yank

    Crazy_Yank Member

    Jan 8, 2001
    Matamoros, Mexico
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Score more goals than our opponents ;)
     
  6. judodono

    judodono Member

    Jun 14, 2005
    Bay Area, Ca.
    Club:
    --other--
    Moses to part the red sea. Charlton Heston will do as well.

    We need to beat Brazil in order to have control of our own destiny so that we can progress to the next round. But i'm a bigger believer in Charlton Heston.
     
  7. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    At this point the US needs at least 3 points to have any chance of advancing. In theory, they could advance with 3 pts, or they could get to 6 pts and still not advance. And lots of possibilities in between.
     
  8. CHthirteen

    CHthirteen Member

    Jul 13, 2008
    Chicago
    we need to win our next two games.
     
  9. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1) If we lose, Italy must lose or we are out.

    If they lose, we'd be looking at:
    Brazil 6 pts = in
    Italy 3 pts, GD +1 or worse
    Egypt 3 pts, GD even or better
    USA 0 pts, GD -3 or worse.

    We'd then need to have Brazil beat Italy, and beat Egypt by enough goals (at least 2) to make up the GD on them, and hope Brazil's win is also at least by 2.

    If we DRAW, then we are in with a shout no matter what happens in the other game. We'd need:

    Italy to beat Brazil in the last game, and we'd need to beat Egypt. Again, with a draw and then a win, we'd then be looking at:

    Italy 6, 7 or 9 pts = In
    USA 4 pts = in
    Brazil 4 pts = out
    Egypt 0, 1 or 3 pts = out.

    In terms of GD, we'd be at -2 going in to the last game, and Brazil at +1. With a loss they'd be even at best, we'd need to win by 3, or score a ton of goals while winning by 2.

    If we WIN, then its all up to us.
     

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