What did Donovan mean by we "came in naive"?

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by SoccerStorm, Jun 26, 2010.

  1. SoccerStorm

    SoccerStorm New Member

    Aug 21, 2007
    He said this during his post-game interview...:confused:
     
  2. HoosierToon

    HoosierToon New Member

    Jan 11, 2008
    Hoboken
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In other words, I think he's saying once again a lot of these guys believed the hype.
     
  3. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    They played gutless the first half. Overall this team doesn't know what a 90 minute effort means.
     
  4. aarond23

    aarond23 Member+

    Feb 24, 2006
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seems like a shot at Clark and Findley to me.....maybe Bornstein too? Although Bornstein played much better than expected so probably not.
     
  5. ant0n

    ant0n Member+

    Jun 12, 2007
    San Jose, Ca
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What do you think it means? Means we choked.
     
  6. Fah Que

    Fah Que Member

    Sep 29, 2000
    LA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    world cup is a distraction and ritual of the illuminati
     
  7. Brian0Redskin0Ultra

    Brian0Redskin0Ultra New Member

    Jan 27, 2010
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If that's the case, it's inexcusable. The players were all saying before the game they weren't naïve going in and wouldn't underestimate Ghana.

    Perhaps he was just giving a cliché answer because he has no satisfying explanation..
     
  8. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    Perhaps he means that the next time he makes up with his ex-wife, maybe he should wait until after the tournament, rather than inviting a major emotional distraction.
     
  9. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Well, in fairness he's probably got a good bit of pity cramming coming his way.

    Beats watching his national team fall apart four minutes into EVERY FREAKING game.
     
  10. Mibabalou

    Mibabalou Member

    Dec 7, 2009
    CT
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    im assuming they started to believe the hype about getting to the semi's and such
     
  11. dredgfan

    dredgfan Member+

    MLS
    Nov 5, 2004
    Denver or NOLA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It means he only thought his balls dropped and he became a man.

    It was really just a lot of hot air.

    Donovan only did anything for about 5 minutes during the England game. 20 during Slovenia game. Maybe the same for Algeria. Today he didn't do much of anyhting. Some guy named Landycakes took the place of what Donovan thought he was going to be.
     
  12. Mike Gray

    Mike Gray BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 17, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    More Donovan bashing.

    Some of you guys are ********ing clueless.
     
  13. aarond23

    aarond23 Member+

    Feb 24, 2006
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes Donovan was fine in this tournament, he dissapeared for about 40 minutes in the 2nd half of the Algeria game, outside of that he was pretty good most of the time.

    I have to believe he was being marked pretty well at all times by the other teams.
     
  14. dredgfan

    dredgfan Member+

    MLS
    Nov 5, 2004
    Denver or NOLA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No one is clueless. Donovan was supposed to shine. Be one of the best, if not the best, on the team. He wasn't for the most part. We'll remember the goal sure. Geesh, and another PK. A PK drawn by a player that outshined him in Dempsey.

    Frankly, the team met expectations for the most part. But Donovan barely got us by Algeria. Who made that other run again?

    Today, it could be argued that Bornstein put in a better effort. That's never a good thing for USMNT success.

    For the WC: Donovan wasn't a top three overall player for us. Bradley, Dempsey, Demerit. Add Howard possibly. Edu. Dolo. He may be out of the top 5. That's just not good enough.

    (Almost Boca, who should have assaulted the guy outside fo the box, but didn't so we lost.)
     
  15. toh2007

    toh2007 Member

    Jun 4, 2007
    by naive he means we lacked experienced. Clark showed a good example of that inexperience when he tried to take on two players in the center of the field instead of making the simple pass.
     
  16. YankBastard

    YankBastard Na Na Na Na NANANANAAA!

    Jun 18, 2005
    Estados Unidos
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What does it mean? Just look at what people here posted. "We're going to beat Ghana and we'll be in the semi's blah blah blah. Basically some of his team thought they were just going to play Ghana like they did against sorry-ass Algeria.
     
  17. dredgfan

    dredgfan Member+

    MLS
    Nov 5, 2004
    Denver or NOLA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fine is decent.

    Landycakes is still a decent player.

    Donovan was quite too much for the whole WC. Other players are pretty well marked, and they manage.
     
  18. dredgfan

    dredgfan Member+

    MLS
    Nov 5, 2004
    Denver or NOLA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not to hate on any player, but did you see Bradley's run at Clark after playing the ball? Not much thought or space. Can't remember seeing if anyone was out wide for any square/drop support.
     
  19. rusty weaponz

    rusty weaponz New Member

    May 27, 2010


    All those things he said in that comment was directed at
    Ricardo Clark losing the ball and giving up the goal at the start of the game,
    and that all the work everybody put in for so long was wasted by
    him in a matter of seconds.
     
  20. SAMBA

    SAMBA Member

    Sep 3, 2004
    New Jersey
    Is this real?

    Did Donovan indirectly call out a teammate?
     
  21. toh2007

    toh2007 Member

    Jun 4, 2007
    he could have played the ball to anyone at the back or just booted it. There was obsolutely no reason for him to take on a player.

    I think the whole team was pretty naive though. We came out thinking we were going to control the game and Ghana just came in and ran the game for the first half hour.
     
  22. dredgfan

    dredgfan Member+

    MLS
    Nov 5, 2004
    Denver or NOLA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No doubt that put the ball in row G would have been a great, most wonderful play. In hindsight.

    But I can't bear a second viewing just yet. Was there a forward or two prevent a straight play it to the keeper or CB pass? I'll look once I get another drink.
     
  23. otkeeper

    otkeeper Member

    Jan 25, 2003
    LB,NJ,US
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    is this our biggest problem? the american media machine? think about it..the world cup is every 4 years so..

    94 world cup here..make it to the 2nd round..so just wait till '98..

    wait..its '98 and we finished last??i thought we were gunna get better in 4 years..we suck

    then '02 #3 team in the world portugal home team S.K. and poland (who i believe topped their qualifying group) we are going to get destroyed..plus the games are on @ 2 in the morning so who cares! then we proceed to beat portugal, draw the home team then they give us a gift...into the 2nd round against Mexico!! beat them..get robbed against germany (penalty or not we would have prob lost in extra time)

    so in '06 we are gunna....not get out of the group???failure horrible soccer is dead in this country

    till this year..get out of the group every1 loves our team and we should get to the semis cause we are better than ghana and uruguay/south korea..

    this is starting to become a rather large sample size..when we are the underdogs we get out of the group when something is expected we fail.
     
  24. DutchFootballRulez

    Jul 15, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Naive.

    Donovan is talking about tactics and composure. Its a shot at Bradley Sr., the coaching, the team philosophy going into that match, and the lineup.

    We were naive about our forwards being able to enjoy a pace advantage on the Ghanian backline. Naive about believing a destroyer and Bradley would be able to control midfield without a 3rd player whom is much better in posession (Torres or Feilhaber). Naive that we could just hoof it long, and win the 2nd ball instead of patiently building with connected passing and tempo through the center then wide.
     
  25. aarond23

    aarond23 Member+

    Feb 24, 2006
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok well if thats the case...we better start making the exuses for Brazil starting tomorrow :)
     

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