Westin’ away again in Margheritaville: McKennie at Juventus

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  1. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The match is streaming free on Pluto TV.
     
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  2. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Locatelli missing pk in the 86th!

    Mamma mia!
     
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  3. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Dec 12, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Frogs
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That was a verrrrrry questionable pen. Justice on the end
     
  4. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    That was a bummer. Leeds PK miss last week (I think. 2 weeks ago? What is time anyway) and then Juve today. The point keeps them safe from Roma for a week - at least in practical terms, I guess a 20 something goal route would catch them, but what a bummer.
     
  5. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Como is the biggest threat. They will likely go 3 points clear tomorrow morning when they play second to the bottom Pisa.

    Roma will not be much of a threat for 4th. After losing to Como last week and knocked out to Bologna in Europa league Thursday, I think they will finish 6th. Como has a pretty favorable run to end the season. Their toughest match is Inter who may have the scudetto wrapped up already
     
  6. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Juventus-Sassuolo 1-1, pagelle e tabellino:
    Conceicao e Yildiz non bastano, Muric e Pinamonti fermano Spalletti | Goal.com Italia


    JUVENTUS (4-2-3-1): Perin 6; Kalulu 6.5, Bremer 5.5, Kelly 6, Cambiaso 5.5 (62' Miretti 6); Locatelli 5.5, Thuram 6 (62' Koopmeiners 6); Conceiçao 7 (87' Zhegrova sv), McKennie 6, Yildiz 6.5 (79' Milik sv); Boga 6 (79' Vlahovic sv)

    Juventus-Sassuolo, le pagelle di CM: Bremer e Locatelli, che errori! Miracolo Grosso, Muric insuperabile | Calciomercato

     
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  7. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
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    United States
    The Italian journalists use verbiage that no one else uses. It's interesting.
     
  8. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I watched Como dismantle Pisa this morning.


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    They have a heck of a team.

     
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  9. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For sure, I wish it wasn't at the expense of Juve possibly missing out. I know there are a lot of people who hate what Como represent in Italy, but I like the idea of a new sister to make the league ultimately more entertaining and enjoyable.

    I'm not an azzurri fan but find it horrendous that there has only been 1' played by an italian all year at Como in the Serie A.
     
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  10. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    WTF. Who cares? Serie A is as international as all of the top leagues
     
  11. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    It's sad because the lack of Italian players on top clubs in the Serie A, the Italian national team has suffered.

    Italy has missed the last two World Cup tournaments and odds are, they are about to miss their third in a row.

    From a club standpoint, most fans can care less about the national team.

    My cousins in southern Italy, in Rome and up in Milan and Turin, only care about their clubs.

    They lose sleep in Lazio, Roma, Milan Inter , Juve or Torino lose but don’t even watch national team games.

    They may care if Italy goes far in a given Euro or WC tournament but that is about it.


    It’s all about the clubs.
     
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  12. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sure, how many other teams in the top leagues have similar representation? Couple that with the tradition of Italy in the footballing world?

    Stuff like this leads to stupid rule changes within the league that I don't want to see. Many fans of gli azzurri are already calling for harsher restrictions on foreign players on top of the 2 non-eu transfers per year because there is a possibility of missing out on a 3rd consecutive world cup.

    I support Juventus and I don't want to see a rule introduced similar to the past where a certain amount of Italians must be on each roster or even starting just to prop up italian development.
     
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  13. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
     
  14. madvillain2

    madvillain2 Member

    Wolves
    United States
    Jan 12, 2026
    Missed most of the game, from what I saw Weston wasn't really involved much, wasn't able to impact game. Of course same could be said of his team mates. A really shit tie that pretty much closes their UCL hopes unless a miracle happens. Sad that Weston won't be in UCL next year and one of the reasons I was open to him moving on.
     
  15. nbarbour

    nbarbour Member+

    Jun 19, 2006
    Washington DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, Weston was a bit quiet this match. He was a bit more active at the beginning but once he got moved to the left he barely saw the ball and when he did he looked to force things a bit.
     
  16. McKenniesWeah

    McKenniesWeah Member

    New England
    United States
    Feb 12, 2024
    When McKennie was in peak form this season, his teammates were using him and each other to advance and create space in the final third. Now it feels like a player like Yilldiz who always has a couple attempts to do it all himself, is tuning out McKennie and his teammates as options.

    McKennie in peak form wasn’t just the goals, he was also making great passes and finding space.
     
  17. madvillain2

    madvillain2 Member

    Wolves
    United States
    Jan 12, 2026
    Yildiz and Concaicao are dribble merchants only. Neither is really capable of picking their head up and finding a team mate consistently. The only guy that consistently wants to play quick passing with Weston is David, and yea, half those times David should just turn and shoot. Loca is sorta like a rich man's Bradley. He'll put in the dirty work, play some great through balls and switches, but isn't going to be dribbling down the park gobbling up attention -- so they play without an attacking midfield and attack down the flanks mostly. Weston at times is in that role but it's not really his thing either.

    It's just a poorly designed team with major weaknesses for their ambitions.
     
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  18. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    Didn't catch the last match, but normally I don't have a ton of issues when Wes is paired with Yildiz on the left, because they tend to combine well. But he and Concaicao on the right side feels like oil and water.
     
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  19. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    o_O The guy with 11g and 9a is a dribble merchant only? The 20 year old Yildiz does have his head down a little more than I would like, but this assessment seems very off. I get that this is Yanks Abroad so we have to default putting down the rest of the teams players to prop ours up, but this is too much.

    Conceicao is absolutely a 1v1 dribble merchant as is Zhegrova. No notes there.
     
  20. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would be quite happy if Musah the dribble merchant came close to those numbers.
     
  21. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    Yildiz is really good
     
  22. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT
    Yeah, it would most certainly be sad not to see one of football's historical titans not present in the WC.

    What is a WC without Italy, Germany, Spain, France, etc.?

    What happened to soccer in Italy?

    Are young Italian boys no longer aspire to be world class footballer? Or are they no longer capable of competing against other foreigners? Has their skills and talents declined that significantly?
     
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  23. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    Did everyone else get better
     
  24. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Did they kick France and Germany out?
     
  25. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    IMO, pretty much. If there are 4 "giants of Europe" I'd argue that Italy and Germany have been trading the bottom spot for the last 2 decades, and I'm open to the argument that Italy has more recently been replaced by Croatia.

    But also... Italy won the Euros in 2021, they've been 3rd place in 2/4 iterations of UEFA Nations League, their u20 team was the u20 WC runner up in 2023, their u19 teams were u19 Euro champions in 2023 and semi-finalists in 2024, and their u17 team place 3rd in last years u17 WC and won the 2024 u17 Euros.

    Italy has been whiffing "The Big One" for a couple of cycles, but to act like their program is in some state of massive decline feels a little silly. They're still one of the most dominant European national teams at all levels.
     

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