Westin’ away again in Margheritaville: McKennie at Juventus

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  1. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
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    Juventus was effusive in praise for Wes:

     
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  2. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    Dec 15, 1999
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    Leicester City FC
    That isn't me - I've watched him for both club and country.
     
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  3. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    Right,I wasn't specifically referring to you - you have interacted with some of those posters,I know.

    I used to feel that Wes keeping his place at Juve as a key player was indicative of a lack of ambition from the club.
    Lately I dont feel that way .
     
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  4. Higher Learning

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    Jul 1, 2009
    San Jose
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    Mckennie up for goal of the month for February. He also has the assist on the other two 1st team goal of the month candidates in this video. Really shows how important he is to their attack
     
  5. ArsenalMetro

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    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
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    Whatever anyone did at the Copa America that led to Berhalter's departure is an enormous positive in my book.
     
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  6. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
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    I'm sorry, but what the heck are you saying here?

    He is 10th all time at Juventus. Not to discount this achievement, that is a fantastic return! Zidane is 20th with 5 goals.
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  7. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    Nor did he set up the winning goal against Columbia in 94. Or the winning goal against Algeria in 2010. You are playing a losing hand buddy. Club vs country
     
  8. ArsenalMetro

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    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
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    That is what "international" means - it has nothing to do with where a player's club is located.

    If you're referring to Champions League play, on any continent, that would be "continental."
     
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  9. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    Dec 15, 1999
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    I feel like I hear it referred to as "in Europe" more than continental.
     
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  10. nbarbour

    nbarbour Member+

    Jun 19, 2006
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    Maybe he's just talking midfielders?
     
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  11. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
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    Oct 16, 2017
    oh ho ho, but what of the Club World Cup, hmmmm???


    (don't answer that seriously)
     
  12. Seanin

    Seanin Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Sorry! I meant to say midfielder, not player.
     
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  13. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
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    :thumbsup:
    Next stop Ballon D'or like Zidane and Nedved!
     
  14. beamish

    beamish Member+

    Jul 6, 2009
    Amazing company
     
  15. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    That's a kiss on the hand.

    Which is not a chef's kiss.

    Or Mikey kissing Fredo. Luckily.
     
  16. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

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    #24016 uniteo, Mar 4, 2026
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    Wait, are you talking about Landon, or Dempsey here?

    I know you're not acting like Dempsey set up the goal. I love me some Clint. My dog is named Dempsey. But he (and we) got luchy against Algeria...he was in alone on the keeper and didn't score...fortunately Landon was following the play.

    And my post was very clear in talking about club ball. All this national team talk just reinforces my belief that some poster just love to sh!t on the new generation.

    Tab's assist came in his 2nd world cup when he was 27, guess who will be in his 2nd world cup at 27 this summer? Wes made it to the knockout round, just like Tab. Only 1 team has progressed beyond the 1st game of the knockout round for the US so flowers to Reyna, for example, who was all tourney at 28 & 11 months. Remember Reyna's shit show in '98 though? Old-timer bias...the best single moment of a full career against maybe half a career?

    But let me reiterate my original point. By ANY objective measure, WM already is the most accomplished US midfielder in his club career. (Juve isn't the same Juve, well who the ******** US player was playing at prie Juve???)
     
  17. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Could easily see him in the top 3 by the time he leaves the club

    Btw his career should be what future Yanks Abroad aim to match.
     
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  18. usnroach

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    Jul 5, 2009
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    Def. possible to match or even surpass Dybala. 40% of his CL goals came this year. Glass half full means he will continue at this new scoring rate and surpass Dybala in a few years. Count me in!
     
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  19. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    Dec 15, 1999
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    You seem to be having some feelings. Just to be clear - are Landon and Pulisic and Dempsey midfielders - or not?

    I don’t want to take away anything from what WM has accomplished - he's one of my favorite players and keeps defying naysayers by surviving every season. But part of my reason for pointing out the context - which I think IS relevant - is that it's worth asking - what does staying a starter for a somewhat mediocre Juventus mean in a post-PSR, post-Champions League League phase, post-Serie A Heyday world mean? It's worth asking. They went out in a playoff to Galatasaray (which by the standards we are applying to Wes's accomplishments would probably be more shocking and ignores the fact that they (G) have some very good players).

    What you see as bashing the new generation, I see as a bit of recency bias. As though this current WM is the same one he's been throughout his career at Juve - which just isn't true. He has been told he's not part of the project in part because he's been a role player and only this season has he turned the saying jack of all trades master of none on it's head - he has really excelled even with his changing roles. And I can't ignore what happened at Leeds.

    At the end end of his career, he may be one of our best ever and his club career may be a big part of the argument. I just am not sure that staying a starter for Juve means the same thing today as it has and I don't think he's clearly a better player than those that have come before him or his contemporaries. I also think it's worth recognizing that those players helped pave the way for the players of today.

    Love the guy - he does things that often blow me away for both club and country. And staying mostly injury free is a massive part of being an effective player. But I personally disagree that this is an objective conversation - I don't know what his club career means to-date and there's a difference in what Pulisic has accomplished as a more attacking player than what WM has accomplished as more of a role player. That matters to me personally.

    But - I'm just glad he seems to be improving every season and growing as a player and being more consistent. He seems to me to be a reallly smart player who knows his roles well - and he has a coach that has a lot of faith in him. I'm glad he's staying because another system, another coach, another league - it might not go as well for him.
     
  20. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
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    I think we can't underestimate Spalletti and his influence on and belief in Wes.*
    *Although Tudor was the one who had the serious discussion with Wes about fitness.
     
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  21. Mt Stone@

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    Apr 30, 2016
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    Now under contract for another 4 more seasons, he's going to climb higher on that list. I bet he gets well over 300 total appearances and is somewhere in the top 5 UCL goalscorers for Juve; barring any significant injuries or sharp decline in play of course. Legend status.
     
  22. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    You just know once he retires he's gonna be the go to guy for commenting on Serie A for years to come.
     
  23. madvillain2

    madvillain2 Member

    Wolves
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    Jan 12, 2026
    Yup, already at least conversational in Italian. He's a star on and off the field there.
     
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  24. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    Maybe, if he's interested - he said he doesn't watch soccer. Commenting, whether at the game or in studio, comes with a lot of watching.
     
  25. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT
    Well, when they pay you to watch soccer; his opinions might change.
     
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