Westin’ away again in Margheritaville: McKennie at Juventus

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by hokeydokey, Jul 7, 2016.

  1. Eliezar

    Eliezar Member+

    Jan 27, 2002
    Houston
    Club:
    12 de Octubre
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He was blocked from seeing what the reach did.

    What I don’t understand is that Bastoni didn’t show backward movement like he was grabbed he fell forward like he was tripped.

    I wish he would get a 3 match ban for that…
     
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  2. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One of the worst parts of the debacle was the celebration from Bastoni after he sold the dive. He acted like he scored a goal or had a crucial block in front of goal... but in fact, he was celebrating his cheat and the inevitable probability that it would secure his team 3 points. It's confusing to hear some announcers give credit to players for fooling refs... the whole "dark arts" commentary. It puts shame on the sport in my eyes... They do indeed need to punish players for moves like this. Dude is a total D-Bag in my eyes.
     
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  3. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    But it happens all the time by all sorts of players - including ours - especially in the box. Even with punishments handed out, it's going to be tough to eradicate this from the sport. It's part of the game, like it or not. Just because he pulled off a world class dive, not sure it makes him a total db (although have no clue if this guy is frequently doing this stuff). Doing cheap shot things that hurt players is much worse.
     
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  4. ChicagoVT

    ChicagoVT Member

    United States
    Jun 26, 2019
    Within the last handful of games Yildiz got a yellow for diving. Refs need to be more consistent. I think Bastoni's dive is getting so much attention because of how big of a game it was, how aggregious the dive was, the stupid rule that VAR can't check second yellows, the fact that Bastoni pleaded for the yellow (yellow card in of itself) and because Bastoni celebrated the yellow card on his opponent like he had scored a game winning goal. For all that, Bastoni, is in fact a D-bag.

    If people are being honest, no one likes diving in sports. It's cheating and there should be more efforts to rid it from the game. Of course you can't get rid of it completely but that shouldn't stop rule makers from trying.
     
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  5. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
  6. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    David picked up a groin injury of some ilk in training over the past couple days (revealed at yesterday's presser), Vlahovic is still injured, and Openda... uh... kinda sucks
     
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  7. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Still, if he actually lines up at CF, it'll be his first start there since December 2018.
     
  8. Higher Learning

    Higher Learning Member+

    Jul 1, 2009
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can you imagine being Openda and being benched for Mckennie? LOL
     
  9. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I will humbly suggest this season by Wes has been the best of any American mid ever.
     
  10. teamitup76

    teamitup76 Member

    Mar 25, 2003
    CA
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Picks up the assist on 2nd goal. His contributions keep on comin’!!!
     
  11. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017


    I think its easy to underappreciate how tough that pass is because Wes makes it look so so smooth. Really nice assist!
     
  12. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    Talk about a game of two halves... Juve went toe-to-toe in the first half and came away with a 1-2 lead. Match ended at 5-2 and Juve with 10 men. Plus, both Cabal and Cambiaso are out of the reverse fixture, meaning Juve will have to adjust their formation even if David is healthy enough to play.

    Rough day. Might be too tall an ask to make up the 3 goal deficit.

    Wes looked as good as one can look while chasing the game down a man.
     
  13. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    No one likes it when it's not their team - it's funny how announcers sometimes extol players who stay on their feet and sometimes say they should have gone down as that would have been a penalty. Is there honor in trying to stay on your feet and miss out on a possible PK?

    I'd be for harsher penalties for diving - but it's a hard one to get right. And diving is just part of the game - I have a hard time getting upset about Bastoni doing something that CP does and almost all very good players do. Thierry Henry in MLS was so good about doing all sorts of dirty crap while making it look unintentional. It's hard to litigate something where players can claim it was unintentional.

    Is celebrating worse than pretending he got shot?
     
  14. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    Also, gotta stress how 2 of the 5 goals were self-inflicted wounds. Cambiaso throwing-in to Yildiz, who was inside his own box. Thuram and Kelly offering the ball to Oshimen inside their own box. The reverse fixture looks much better at 3-2 than 5-2...
     
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  15. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    During the past 20 years…

    Stu Holden’s 2010-2011 season was outstanding until the middle of March. Bradley’s 2007-2008 season was spectacular, albeit at a lower level.
     
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  16. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    It's a shame we never see Bradley's goal proficiency again after that season.
     
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  17. madvillain2

    madvillain2 Member

    Wolves
    United States
    Jan 12, 2026
    I've come to the conclusion he might be better off moving on. He can get paid more at Inter or Atletico or ____ and still maintain his career trajectory as a key player on a UCL top 16 type club.

    Juve are just a mess. They have no finances to bring in the 3-4 guys they would need to improve and they've low balled Weston.
     
  18. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Overreaction on bastoni. Every player celebrates getting the opponent sent off. Lol

    It's unfortunate but that's too bad
     
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  19. Higher Learning

    Higher Learning Member+

    Jul 1, 2009
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I disagree on this point. They have the finances but they continue to spend on the wrong players. Joao Mario for $13 million, now loaned out, Nico Gonzalez for $29 loaned out. Kelly for $18 Million and he's trash. Openda never plays, Zhegrova never plays. David is garbage. I could go on and on....
     
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  20. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I watched a lot of Bolton that year. Believe they were as high as 7th at one point.

    But I put Wes’s current season a tier above. Top Italian side and doing it in UCL.
     
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  21. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    Well…this will ease fixture congestion and save his legs a little bit before summer.
     
  22. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Dec 12, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Frogs
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This! This squad is never going to win the CL anyway
     
  23. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    the teams get payments depending on how far they go. Its not just about winning but showing well
     
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  24. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Dec 12, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Frogs
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And if they get blown out by Galatasaray, they don't deserve to go any further
     
  25. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    So if Juve wins by 3 goals in the next leg in Turin, they draw, is that correct?
     
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