West Ham v. WBA 11-08-03 (R)

Discussion in 'West Ham United' started by pething101, Nov 7, 2003.

  1. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    well you know that I have said I have some sort of connection with the Dutch. I feel at home in the Netherlands.

    Is it possible that Machen is a form of some other Dutch name?

    Or maybe the Garcia were involved very strongly in Dutch occupation by Spain.
     
  2. Frieslander

    Frieslander Member
    Staff Member

    Feb 14, 2000
    North Jersey
    I found a few records of Machens in the Netherlands. Here is a marriage record from 1823:


    Bron Burgerlijke stand - Huwelijk (Bruid)
    Archieflocatie Rijksarchief Noord-Brabant

    Algemeen Toegangnr: 121.182
    Inventarisnr: 9132
    Gemeente: Woudrichem
    Soort akte: Huwelijksakte
    Nummer: 2
    Datum: 17-04-1823
    Man Naam: Roeloff Johannes Heijligers
    Geboortedatum: 17-04-1791
    Plaats: Woudrichem
    Vrouw Naam: AgleeJosephina Maria Marguerite Machen
    Geboortedatum: 04-11-1798
    Plaats: Brunen DEU
    Vader man Naam: Jan Heijligers
    Vader vrouw Naam: Jean Baptist Machen
    Moeder man Naam: Neeltje Timmermans
    Moeder vrouw Naam: Marie Marguerite Macaine

    I found 26 Machen records. All but a couple seem to be from the same family. "Plaats: Brunen DEU" tells me the bride was born in Germany as I found in other records. The interesting part is that they all seem to have french or maybe spanish names. Could be some french or belgian connections. More later... maybe I'll pm you this really isn't the place for this.
     
  3. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have to say I'm very impressed. My sister's name is Maria Marguerite as well!

    Holy crap!

    You could post this in the Dutch Slow Chat one. WOW!!! Very cool Fries, very cool.
     
  4. Bilbao2Brooklyn

    Jun 20, 2001
    Brooklyn,U.S.A.
    Fries, to what date can you trace your family tree to?

    I ask because about 10 years ago my grandmother went back to the Basque country and did this, and she created our family tree, it goes back to the 16th century. and has over 300 people on it. It is unbelievable, to see the 300 people and then to see mu own name at the bottom w/ like 75 cousins(2nd,3rd,4th, I would imagine.)
     
  5. pething101

    pething101 Member

    Jul 31, 2001
    Smyrna, Ga
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My grandfather traced his lineage back to William the Conqueror.

    So, ya know, I could be like King Ralph one day.

    [​IMG]
     
  6. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    if you were King...you could save West Ham
     
  7. pething101

    pething101 Member

    Jul 31, 2001
    Smyrna, Ga
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Only a King, not a miracle worker.
     
  8. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A Russian oil King?
     
  9. pething101

    pething101 Member

    Jul 31, 2001
    Smyrna, Ga
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He might have more money than the Queen so, he could be a miracle worker.
     
  10. Frieslander

    Frieslander Member
    Staff Member

    Feb 14, 2000
    North Jersey
    That would make you part Dutch. Congradulations.

    B2B, I'm back to about 1710 on my paternal side. I don't think the records exist any further back and if they do they are very hard to track because surnames weren't commonly used in Friesland before 1813.

    One branch of my family I have traced back to the Spanish seige of Leiden during the 80 Years War.
     

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