Wellstone In crash

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  1. obie

    obie New Member

    Nov 18, 1998
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    Paul Wellstone

    CNN is reporting that Sen. Wellstone was on a plane that has crashed in Minnesota. Eight people on board, "with fatalities".


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  2. zverskiy yobar

    zverskiy yobar BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Mar 10, 2002
    Reports have Sen Paul Wellstone being a passenger in a fatal plane crash in northern MN.Its a sad day, one of the loudest opponents to Bush's Iraq policy.I may be an ultra conservative, but I did admire the guy.One of the few Dems who actually practiced what he preached.Its a sad day for American democracy.
     
  3. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    That's tragic. These little planes are so fvcking dangerous!
     
  4. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
  5. sebakoole

    sebakoole New Member

    Jul 11, 2002
    Regardless of your ideological convictions you have to admit this man had a hell of a lot of integrity. A tragic loss.
     
  6. cossack

    cossack Member

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    This is tragic. Truly a good man and a strong progressive that kept the people I don't like in check. Even the Green Party left the ticket rather than challenge him.
     
  7. obie

    obie New Member

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    First Mel Carnahan, now Wellstone. There's obviously a vast national Democratic Party conspiracy to kill its candidates in close races in order to gain sympathy.

    It's too late to put someone else on the ballot. If Wellstone's name wins the election, does it not fall to Jesse Ventura to name a replacement?
     
  8. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Ventura would either call a special election or name a Democratic replacement (per foxnews.com)
     
  9. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    You think maybe you can wait a few hours before cracking the jokes?

    Back to the tragedy.

    While is wife and daughter were on the plane, his two sons and six grandchildren fortunately were not.
     
  10. bungadiri

    bungadiri Super Moderator
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    Jan 25, 2002
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    What a tragedy. As an ultra liberal, I agree wholeheartedly with zverskiy yobar--he was one of the few who actually stood up on his hind legs and did the job he was elected to do during the Iraq resolution debate. And I wasn't the least bit surprised to see him do it.
     
  11. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Political ideology aside, if everyone in government had his integrity I think we'd all have a lot less to argue about on these boards.
     
  12. obie

    obie New Member

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    Sorry, but some right-winger somewhere is already working on this theory. I guarantee it. There is likely also some intern in a law library in St. Paul right now, trying to find out if Wellstone can be expunged from the ballot.

    Politics is nasty business, even in death.
     
  13. Fah Que

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    Now it turns out he does keep his promise of not running for a 3rd term afterall.
     
  14. TheWakeUpBomb

    TheWakeUpBomb Member

    Mar 2, 2000
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    Classy. :rolleyes:
     
  15. Dan Loney

    Dan Loney BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 10, 2000
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    Terrible day for America.

    RIP
     
  16. csc7

    csc7 New Member

    Jul 3, 2002
    DC
    I walked by his office on the way to lunch. It's a really sad day. I wish his family and staff well.
     
  17. ONE

    ONE Member

    Aug 11, 2000
    NOLA
    what kind of twisted cosmic joke, allows strom thurmond to make 99...and kills the only upstanding, moral person on capitol hill at 58?

    simply gutted.

    prayers to all the victims families...
     
  18. mr.acorn

    mr.acorn New Member

    Jul 22, 2001
    Grand Rapids, Michigan
    Politicians tend to get labeled and pidgeonholed by their ideologies to the point that they almost become de-humanized and unapproachable. Having learned more about Mr Wellstone in the past hour, he seemed like just a normal guy who anyone could approach if you crossed paths with him on the street.

    On the news channels, People both on the left and right are talking about how much they respected Mr Wellstone and how much he'll be missed.

    Today, not only have we lost a compassionate public servant, But also, a kind and decent human being.
     
  19. joseph pakovits

    joseph pakovits New Member

    Apr 29, 1999
    fly-over country
    There are certain politicians whom I respect even if I disagree with them because they tend to stick to their values regardless of fashion or convenience. I even have a small amount of grudging respect for Jesse Helms because as looney as he is he sticks to his guns. I respected Wellstone for that reason as well.

    I also admired Wellstone because it's easy to stick to your guns when your guns are pointed the same direction as those of the wealthy and powerful but difficult to hold to your principles in the face of powers that can make your life hell. Wellstone did a delicate balancing act in trying to bring progressive values to a Congress dominated by Big Business bribery.

    Even in liberal Minnesota, I doubt there is anyone there to continue his progressive voice in Congress. The USA and its democracy are poorer today.
     
  20. TheLimeChicken

    Mar 27, 2001
    Dorchester, MA
    Saw it somewhere earlier, will look for it now. I believe that Minnesota law allows for a replacement to be named as late as four days before the election in a scenario such as this.
     
  21. photar74

    photar74 New Member

    Jun 25, 2002
    West Philly
    This is very sad. He was one of the few members of either house of Congress who I still looked to as a defender of justice.

    And his wife and daughter were in the plane as well. I can't even imagine how horrible it must be for his other two children right now.

    After the election--Wellstone seemed to have a very good chance of winning and must be certain to win now--I hope Ventura has the decency to appoint someone who represents everything for which Wellstone stood.

    Very, very sad. This is the first time I remember being sad--much less close to tears--upon news of the death of a serving politician.

    Wellstone never voted or campaigned for politically expediant purposes. I wonder how many senators out there who voted for the war and for whom every other vote is motivated by their own chances for reelection can look at themselves now and say that if they were to die today that they used their time on earth to fight for the causes in which they believe.

    I always thought we needed more like him. Now we don't even have him.

    A sad day indeed.

    :-(
     
  22. obie

    obie New Member

    Nov 18, 1998
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    That's what msnbc.com is saying as well. Frankly, Ventura should reschedule the election if possible. Ten days is not enough time for people to make an informed choice concerning a new candidate.
     
  23. bert patenaude

    Apr 16, 2001
    White Plains, NY
    Wellstone was one of a very few politicians who I respected. RIP.
     
  24. Godot22

    Godot22 New Member

    Jul 20, 1999
    Waukegan
    From cnn.com:

    Under Minnesota law, if a nominee in a Senate race dies during a campaign, his or her political party can select a replacement candidate no later than four days before the general election. Election Day this year is November 5.
     
  25. TheLimeChicken

    Mar 27, 2001
    Dorchester, MA
    Thanks Godot, I'm poring through MN statute looking for the proper law. I trust CNN, you think I might have looked there first. Thanks for saving me the work.
     

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