Week 27 Attendance

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by FlashMan, Oct 2, 2003.

  1. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    12,185 at Colorado on a Wednesday. A respectable amount. I believe they had some sort of $10 a ticket discount thing going on.

    Sounded pretty much like a morgue though, except for a few lovely drums.
     
  2. Mimir19

    Mimir19 Member

    Jan 28, 2001
    Buffalo, NY
    Well done.. I was about to get this thread moving myself..

    Rest of the games on the docket for this week

    Saturday, October 4

    DC United @ Columbus
    Colorado @ Kansas City
    Los Angeles @ Chicago (last game at Naperville)
    New England @ Dallas

    Sunday, October 5
    Metros @ San Jose (12 noon start)


    Averages courtesy of www.kenn.com

    Year Average
    1996 17,406
    1997 14,619
    1998 14,312
    1999 14,282
    2000 13,756
    2001 14,961
    2002 15,821
    2003 14,727

    Median
    1996 15,093
    1997 12,733
    1998 11,871
    1999 12,973
    2000 12,690
    2001 13,431
    2002 14,108
    2003 ?(anyone know)?

    Make your predictions
     
  3. Mimir19

    Mimir19 Member

    Jan 28, 2001
    Buffalo, NY
    DC United @ Columbus 17,500
    Colorado @ Kansas City 16,000
    Los Angeles @ Chicago 15,100
    New England @ Dallas 8000

    Sunday, October 5
    Metros @ San Jose 11,000


    13,297 average for the week then...
     
  4. Kqql

    Kqql Member

    Sep 22, 2003
    Saturday
    @ Columbus : 15,500
    @ Kansas City : 13,200
    @ Chicago : 12,800
    @ Dallas 7,700

    Sunday,
    @ San Jose 10,800
     
  5. dc@clb-18500
    col@kc-15500
    la@chi-15000
    ne@dal-8k
    ny@sj-2k
     
  6. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's back. Sort of missed him.

    Clb - 16,800
    Chi - 15,100
    KC - 13,200
    Dal - 7,750

    SJ - 9,100 (Sunday 1pm starts hurts San Jose this week)

    Avg (for weekend) - 12,390

    Not a great week. What are out chances of reaching 15,000 average for the year? What do we have to average from here on in?
     
  7. Detective40oz

    Detective40oz Member

    Jun 16, 2000
    Fairfax, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    I'd say the chances are about zero
     
  8. guamster

    guamster Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    Winnetka, CA
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Guam
    With 130 games played, the total attendance is:
    1,914,429

    In order to average 15,000, the total attendance after 150 games has to be 2,250,000

    2,250,000 - 1,914,429 = 333,571 people are needed in the remaining 20 games.

    To reach the 15,000 mark, MLS needs to average 333,571/20 = 16,779 in the remaining games.

    That's going to be tough, if not impossible.

    Figures source:
    http://www.mlsnet.com/statistics/league.html
     
  9. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    I see that worthless sack of crap falcon6 is back, guess he has no honor after all:rolleyes:
     
  10. okcomputer

    okcomputer Member

    Jun 25, 2003
    dc
    I actually kind of missed Falcon. He adds spice to this thread. Welcome back.
     
  11. Fanaddict

    Fanaddict Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    streamwood IL USA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    clb 17,000
    chi 15,000
    kc 14,000
    dall 7,000
    sj 9,000
     
  12. kpaulson

    kpaulson New Member

    Jun 16, 2000
    Washington DC
    Incidentally, last year we averaged 18,574 in the last 20 games. I believe there were a couple of events, but you're right-- it's hardly impossible given that MLS has done it before.
     
  13. John Galt

    John Galt Member

    Aug 30, 2001
    Atlanta
    Fun With Numbers

    Just for fun, and maybe to kick a man when he's down. . .

    Current MLS average = 14,726
    Projected total attendance at current avg.=2,208,956
    Difference from 2,500,000= 41,043

    Dallas Burn Avg. 2003=7751
    Burn projected total= 108,514
    Dallas Burn Avg. 2002= 13,122
    Dallas Burn Total 2002 = 183,700

    Projected Difference in Burn Attendance=75,186

    Conclusion: The Dallas Burn are to blame if MLS does not reach 15,000 this year.

    (BTW, there's plenty of other ways to manipulate these numbers to blame other factors, I know. I just figured this is the year to pile on to the scapegoat).
     
  14. Liverpool_SC

    Liverpool_SC Member

    Jun 28, 2002
    Upstate, SC
    We do have a couple of high attendance prospects, though.

    +Chicago Fire's first Soldier Field game could bring in a huge crowd (maybe 30,000?).

    +Isn't there at least one more big WWC doubleheader (maybe New England)?

    +KC always gets a nice crowd (@20,000 - 23,000) for their last home game (20,704 in 2001 and 19,720 last season - expect more this season).

    +Colorado regularly has a decent gate for the last home game of the season (25,614 last season).

    +San Jose regularly picks its attendance up well the last month or so and last season had a big gate for the final Galaxy game (26,300 last season, ).

    +LA Galaxy home games are still plugging in at 23,000 for weekend games - there is still one big date there (especially with San Jose coming to town). We could even see closer to 25,000. (LA Galaxy last home date 2002 - 32,874).

    +The Metrostars v New England match on October 18 is going to be huge (playoff implications) - Connelly has already called people out - I think 30,000 is not possible, but a mid 20's gate would be possible.

    +Columbus is playing for pride and can pack them in late in the season (averaged 23,000 over last two dates in 2002).

    +We have no more Wednesday night games. In fact, Friday night is the only non-weekend match left.

    +We only have to eat two more Dallas home games out of around 20 remaining games.

    +All of the unused season tickets are going to be counted - we have probably already started to see some cases of increased numbers due to this factor.

    I don't think it is outside the realm of possibility to average 18,000 and change for the rest of the season. As always, weather plays a big role - especially since the season is running later this year.
     
  15. guamster

    guamster Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    Winnetka, CA
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Guam
    I feel a little better about the chances of hitting the 15000 mark. Just a little :)

    The WWC moves to the west coast, with the semi-finals in Portland and the finals at HDC. There will be no WWC doubleheader games helping the cause.

    San Jose should see a nice crowd for the Galaxy game but that might be offset by Sunday's early afternoon game vs the Metros. San Jose has not done well at the gate with 1:00 games. What might help is this game is one of those "MLS soccer camp graduation" games IIRC and they are giving out Landon Donovan t-shirts.
     
  16. Harvest FC

    Harvest FC New Member

    Oct 31, 2001
    Napa, CA
    Hope I'm wrong but, if the Giants and/or the A's end up playing on Sunday, on top of Mariucci coming back to SF to coach against the 49'ers at the same time the Quakes play, 9,000 may be a generous estimate.
     
  17. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    FWIW, the front office is completely backlogged with ticket requests. They were up at or near 10,000 a week and a half ago.
     
  18. Centennial

    Centennial Member+

    Apr 4, 2003
    Centennial
    I think this may be the largest or second largest midweek crowd ever for the Rapids (not including Holidays or US-MEXICO doublheader).
     
  19. gschroeder

    gschroeder Member

    Jun 18, 2001
    Thornton, Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    The median for 2003 as of October 1st is
    13,715
     
  20. MD_05

    MD_05 New Member

    Oct 18, 2002
    Ohio
    Attendance: 17,995 at Crew Stadium
    Attendance: 13,069 at Arrowhead
    Attendance: 11,874 at THE LAST GAME at Naperville
    Attendance: 8,917 at Dragon Stadium - is that a season high?
     
  21. Scribe

    Scribe Member

    Mar 26, 2000
    Chapel Hill, NC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    San Jose: 10,225
     
  22. Pathetic
     
  23. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    Attendence-1,976,500
    Games-135
    Average-14,641

    To Reach 15,000:

    2,250,000-1,976,500=273,500

    273,500/15=18,233 per game

    Home Games:

    2-CHI, MET, NE, DC, KC
    1-CLB, DAL, LA, SJ, COL

    Doesn't look good, unless the Soldier Field games draw really well.
     
  24. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    &nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp Taking all of what you've mentioned into account along with the 1pm Sunday start, the 10,225 attendance is actually pretty decent.


    -G
     
  25. lufty

    lufty Member

    Aug 21, 2000

    2 games left
    CHI-- 27000, 20000
    MET-- 22000, 22000
    NE--- 15000, 22000
    DC--- 16000, 21000
    KC--- 14000, 15000

    =194000

    CLB-- 22000
    DAL-- 9000
    LA--- 22000
    SJ--- 13000
    COL--- 18000

    =84000

    278,000
     

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