News: Wednesday, Jan 21 , 2015

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  1. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So can someone verify the story that's going around about how NYRB traded the same 2016 draft pick twice?

    The first time was in the Convey deal when it was a first round suplemental pick and the superdraft was only two rounds long.

    Then yesterday they traded their 3rd pick in the 2016 draft - which would seem to be the same thing - to Chicago for a keeper.
     
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  2. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Please be true, please be true, please be true!
     
  3. Knave

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    May 25, 1999
  4. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    That is assuming that NY only had one 3rd round pick next year.
     
  5. Knave

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    May 25, 1999
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  6. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
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  7. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    "3rd pick?" =/= "3rd round pick"

    Perhaps their "3rd pick" could be within the 2nd or 4th round, or even the first round?
     
  8. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    #33 Bill Archer, Jan 21, 2015
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2015
    Looking like it:

    For Convey:

    The New York Red Bulls announced today that they have acquired former U.S. national team midfielder Bobby Convey, as well as Toronto FC's natural 2014 MLS SuperDraft second-round selection (22nd overall). In exchange, New York sent its natural 2014 MLS SuperDraft first-round pick (15th overall) and its 2016 first-round Supplemental Draft pick to Toronto FC. (At the time the Superdraft was only 2 rounds)

    For Reynish:

    The New York Red Bulls have acquired goalkeeper Kyle Reynish from the Chicago Fire in exchange for a third-round pick in the 2016 MLS SuperDraft, the club announced today.

    "The Red Bulls have responded with this statement. "All trades are reviewed and approved by the league office."

    http://www.onceametro.com/2015/1/20/7863785/did-rbny-trade-the-same-future-draft-pick-twice

    So either a) NYRB is incompetent b) MLS is incompetent c) both a and b, d) NYRB had a spare third rounder that nobody knew about sitting around or e) the Convey pick has evaporated into the ether.
     
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  9. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    It's all part of Ali's 300 page plan!
     
  10. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    The Sacramento Bee's Marcos Breton has devoted yet column to soccer. This time his subject is Miguel Aguilar, the Sacramento product drafted by DC United.

    Soccer star Miguel Aguilar tells his inspiring story at Encina High, his alma mater

    -- Marcos Breton, Sacramento Bee
    Lots of soccer in the Bee today ...
     
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  11. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    All they have to do is acquire a 3rd round pick in some trade somewhere within the course of 2015.

    Or, Ali's only there for a year, so why would he need to worry about 2016 anyway.
     
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  12. footballfantatic

    Mar 27, 2008
    Ontario, California
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    Toronto FC Unveil USL PRO Team, Toronto FC II
    by Marco D'Onofrio
    T2FC sounds cool as hell!
     
  13. IndyMac

    IndyMac Member

    Nov 2, 2008
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  14. hot potato

    hot potato Member+

    Feb 21, 2014
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    the women did not loose on everything- while they dont get the grass, they do get a much higher grade and new turf at bc place place stadium where the semis and finals are being played

    this is great news for the whitecaps as the old turf- only 3 years old!!- is very beat-up and more like concrete and looks terrible on TV
     
  15. Eastern Bear

    Eastern Bear Member+

    Feb 27, 1999
    Great Falls, VA
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    I like loose women. :)
     
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  16. Inca Roads

    Inca Roads Member+

    Nov 22, 2012
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    Face like yours, you gotta.
     
  17. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
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    Sporting Kansas City
    If it's true, they'll probably get out of it by adding a pick at the end of the fourth round and state that the supplemental first round is NOT the third round of the SuperDraft, but a supplemental pick.

    While the first and second rounds of this year's SuperDraft featured traded Chivas picks, the 21st and 22nd picks of the fourth round were picks from prior 5th and 6th round picks that were traded when those rounds existed.

    It does look like they screwed up (unless NYRB re-acquired the pick, or picked up another in the interim), and any solution short of NYRB trading for a pick, or modifying the trade with Chicago for something else, would reveal changing definitions.

    But we are talking about a draft pick in the 40s/50s range at this point. I doubt anyone is going to lose sleep, but it is a chance to laugh at NYRB - or maybe the Chicago Fire - and MLS.
     
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  18. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
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    Colorado Rapids
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    United States
    [​IMG]

    Seriously, whats out of place with Rapids? And we already re-imaged twice, once from green and white (7 years) to black and blue (4 years) and once from black and blue to burgundy and blue (10 seasons assuming our revealed home jersey during jersey week is those colors).
     
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  19. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
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    France
    Oh, old Simpsons episode going through my mind, they're more the Slowpids than they are the Rapids. That's all I got. Sorry.
     
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  20. Flex Buffchest

    Jan 25, 2010
    Orange County, California
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hate when people suggest that a team needs a rebrand just because they have a couple of bad seasons. Rebranding to Colorado City FC will totally refresh the franchise and bring out the fans.
     
  21. Lancaster FC

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  22. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
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  23. Lucho305

    Lucho305 Member

    Inter Miami CF, Junior de Barranquilla
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    Jul 9, 2008
    Miami
    Club:
    Miami FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Whats ro re-imagine??! Are you kidding me? Im not talking about colors im talking about the name...
     
  24. IndyMac

    IndyMac Member

    Nov 2, 2008
    Evansville, Indiana
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is what I hear when Garber talks about being one of the top leagues by 2022. Obviously, MLS won't catch up to the Premier League. But if they can keep steadily growing the salary cap and improving player development at home then MLS could become the best league in the Americas only trailing the big leagues of Europe. Every league in Latin America seems to be struggling financially with teams failing to pay players and other staff. That just makes MLS more attractive to players from the Americas.
     

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