Just judging both by thier time at Milan whom does everybody think was better? Don't just vote in the poll, tell me why.
Weah was more talented surely, but Andriy is eerily consistent. Sheva is doing bigger and better things at Milan than Weah did, even if Sheva never dribbles the length of the pitch to score.
Sheva. The complete modern forward. I couldn't say he's the best in the world at anything he does, but he has no recognizable weaknesses, and as Jawz10 said, is eerily consistent. Not as flashy, but then again, as Denilson has proven year after year, flash ain't all its cracked up to be. I have to admit, Sheva is one of two players I've repeatedly said I want Chelsea to buy. I think he's prefectly suited to the English game, especially with his willingness to work hard and track back. (The other player, oddly enough, plays for Inter - Javier Zanetti, who'd be perfect for 2 years as Glen Johnson is groomed.)
What should be considered is the teams both players have had the (mis)fortune to play in. Would Sheva score or contribute as much in the teams Weah played in? Would Weah's goal ratio go up if he played at the Milan Sheva is with? Both are fantastic players and I find it hard o call one way or the other. Remembering Sheva's debut goal reminds me how great he was before the injuries - The Dinamo Shevchenko - but Weah provided so many memorable moments for Serie A's history archive that it is very hard to decide. Goals don't always tell the full story.
DS is on target. They are two different types of forwards. Two favorites of mine, but if pressed for an answer.... When asked, after AC won the scudetto in '95-96, what made the difference in winning the title that year Maldini answered "Weah." As good as AC Milan has been recently, would Maldini say "Schevy" as the reason for this year's scudetto? Weah caused so much trouble to opposing defenses when he was at his best, that it opened up scoring opportunities for everyone. Plus, his goals were spectacular...though he was not a pure goalscorer. IMO Weah. Having come earlier in his career, Schevy will go down as the greater player in Milan history.
And what exactly does that prove? People that determine who is greater by World Player awards need to start watching the players and stop listening to the idiot managers. And if you really look back at Sheva's 1998/99 season you will see that he should have been World Footballer of the Year. He led the Ukrainian league in goals en route to the title. He then led the CL in goals en route to leading Dynamo to the Semifinals. He then was sold to Milan and started the season on blistering form and later won the scoring title. But since the awards usually are so biased towards the international game he had no shot at winning. I forget who won but I'm guessing they were Brazilian or French.
And since I started this poll I might as well tell you all why Sheva is, was, and will always be superior to Weah. First off, just looking at thier attributes there is nothing that Weah can do that Sheva can not. People that say he opened up opportunities for other players are right. But so does Sheva. Weah and Sheva are bascially the same type of player. They are goal scorers who think goal first, pass second. Weah was not the Baggio type player than some are making him out to be. He was always the frontrunner. And when you compare Sheva's goal rate to Weah's it's not even close. And if your judgement that Weah is better than Sheva because he scored more goals than maybe you need to reread the rules of the game. Because every spectacular goal Weah scored it still only counted once. I get the feeling that alot of people form an opinion based on the highlights they seen rather than actually watching a full season. Now while Weah has some spectacular moments he also would go quiet for a couple of games. OTOH, Sheva comes to play every game and works his ass off for the team. He played for some not so good teams(by Milan Standards) in his first three years at Milan. But he still piled up the goals even if it was in front of a poorous midfield.
I'm sorry, you lost me right here! Are you crazy? As much as I rate 'Dinamo Sheva' there is no way in hell he could do the stuff Weah could.. equally Weah's long range shooting wasn't as good as Sheva's, but come one please try not to be biased...Weah's dribbling skills were phenomenal and his raw physical power is something Sheva never had or will have. Their attributes are almost polaric.
Who cares...they were both sons of Milan. I may have warm spots for some players, but all of them who play their heart out for the club are a part of my heart and rossineri lore.
Just because Weah was more muscular doesn't make him stronger in all the ways that matter. Sheva never gets pushed off the ball and he is deadly in the air. And as a matter of fact, Sheva has gotten bigger in Italy than he was in Kiev. Sheva also could make the same dazzling runs that Weah did, as evidenced by hios goal against Bari in his first year in Milan. And if Weah's dribbling skills are the only thing you can come up with that is better than Sheva than why do say that Weah was better. Cristiano ronaldo is also a better dribbler than Sheva but there is no way I would take him over Sheva. Sheva is the better player. The awards were different back then, before the commercialization of the sport took over. And especially in the FIFA award, back then there weren't as many managers voting. Most came from europe and didn't vote as much on reputation as the rest of the world does now. Nowadays, the player with the most commercial appeal usually wins. How do you explain Zidane and Ronaldo winning in back to back years. Ballack should have won in 2002 and Nedved in 2003. But since the majority of the world only see the major tournaments they vote based on the few matches they actually seen. But this is all beside the point I was trying to make. I was simply saying that Weah's 1995 season wasn't superior to Sheva's 1999 season. Just because some knuckleheads give somebody an award doesn't make it a fact that they were the best. I never take awards serious because that is someone else's opinion of what happended. I only go by what I think, not anybody else.
Well, not quite I started the thread because Comme said he thought Weah was better in his time at Milan than Sheva was in the 'Beautiful Game' forum. I just wanted to know what everybody else thought.
Personally i think Sheva has been more consistent i mean he has hit 24 goals in Serie A in 3 of the 5 seasons he has been there and in some pretty awful teams too!! I mean with a midfield of Giunti and De Sanctis supported by the likes of Jose Mari up front, makes it even more incredible!! In bad teams he flourishes, in good teams he flourishes in big games he scores and against the small teams he scores and i dont really know if i can point out a weakness in him, he has shown loyalty through the difficult times and he has been repayed foir that by winning 4 trophies in 2 season!
i'm still kicking myself for having missed out on great european football in the early 90s upto mid-90s as i love watching wonderful players and teams at work. (milan and barcelona during the period) i got to see weah only during his last year at milan so i didn't vote here but sheva is one of my favorite players. he's just so deadly, with his pace, technique, and directness, terrorizing opposing defenses at will. he's probably one of those rare playes who would make his mark anywhere. he was more than a handful for juve when we faced dynamo kiev in CL. anyway, it seems you guys have a semblance of a dynasty, well-balanced, wonderfully-gifted at virtually all positions, not to mention a deep-pocketed owner willng to spend money to win. just about the only consolation or hope that i have is enigmatic ancelotti...
Comparing those two players are rather ridiculous. Both are great, and the icons of football player in their own countries. They both contributed a lot for AC MILan.
lol....dude i think everyone knows that they're both the Giants in milan history Well i think weah is more all rounded than sheva like he is WAY taller than sheva so he's more effective in crosses but yeh towards the end of weahs career man he was having alot of shockers like e.g. there was this one game can't remember who they were playing but weah got fed a through ball and he was one on one with the keeper he gets past the keeper as well be ummm......yeh funny enough no finnish...that's just one example Although during his prime i'm not sure about this but weah was named one of the most prolific strikers of all time. I think sheva's got a bit to do still. i guess what i'm trying to say is sheva might be in his prime now but as of now he's not as rock solid as weah was in his prime
Also i think when sheva wins world footballer of the year like weah has done in 1995 then we should start comparing..... Keep this in mind also Weah was the only player other than Marco Van Basten to win world footballer of the year in the 90's and no one in from mialn has won it since weah i know sheva's "the" current marksman and i'm not saying he's not good i think he "could" be one of the best milans ever had but i think we ought to give a ltl more respect to the likes of weah I think weah was more creative than sheva and also the thing about weah is that he scored absolutely blinding goals like all the time where as sheva's just a solid finnisher i think sheva's scoring more than weah was but then again sheva's like a lone striker these days with kaka playing as a forward and the ageing inzaghi. Weah was playing with the likes of Roberto Baggio who was just as efficient in scoring as weah was. i guess my point is sheva is still youngish but he has alot to do