We may have our first Poch blacklist player: Sargent. How do we feel about it? Is it justified?

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by OWN(yewu)ED, May 22, 2025.

  1. CoachP365

    CoachP365 Member+

    Money Grab FC
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    Discommendation
     
  2. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok this is pretty good.
     
  3. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One of the best things that has happened is Poch taking over. It has seriously slowed all of the inanity of MLS quota talk and the foolishness of how it was all the various MLS-adjacent coaches' fault for poor team performance. We can finally get back to talking about the players winning and losing games, regardless of where they play. Hopefully, we can get some eye-opening performances from guys like Downs and Freeman. We need a positive.
     
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  4. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There’s a couple of so guys I would have liked to see (Tolkin, Gutierrez, and Paxton Aaronson in particular) but there are some interesting names who are going between Freeman, Berhalter, Downs, Freese, and Sullivan. I do think we are a bit unbalanced also in terms of lots of 9s and not much in the way in wingers.
     
  5. BMWDeuce

    BMWDeuce Member

    AC Milan
    United States
    Aug 15, 2024
    I get a strange enjoyment from seeing people like Tac and 11 Yanks basically celebrate how "mediocre MLS players" will no longer be called up under Poch to it seemingly becoming that Poch rates what players are doing in MLS over other places.

    Like I fully believe Paxten Aaronson should be in camp, but I'm starting to wonder if Poch really doesn't rate the Eredivisie... and I've thought this even based on comments he's made about Tillman in the past
     
  6. SamsArmySam

    SamsArmySam Member+

    Apr 13, 2001
    Minneapolis, MN
    If Sargent "gets sold to a top 5 club and performs very well," I'll dance through the streets of Minneapolis naked when he kicks off the World Cup for us in 2026.

    Took me a minute, but I'm pretty sure you meant "sold to a club in a top 5 league." With that, I would agree. But there will be no dancing.
     
  7. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    I don't think Sargent is being blackballed.

    I do think selecting Brian White over him on footballing grounds is an egregious mistake in player evaluation. Almost as bad as Brad Davis or Julian Green over Landon Donovan.
     
  8. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

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    May 12, 2019
    Regarding Paxten, @TrueCrew triggered a thought in my head on him in another thread. I wonder if there's some skepticism on him given that he's playing further back in the Eredivsie, a league not known for it's physicality.

    He was an attacker for the youth teams, now he's doing well playing an 8 ... but in a league where you can be a bit skeptical that he will physically translate if he moves up. Especially at 20 -- Brenden is older and he gets bounced around in international play.

    There was a lot of scoffing when one of Berhalter's reasons for keeping Pepi home at the World Cup was size and strength, but international play tends to be more physical and guys get manhandled.

    Someone like Berhalter is 24; someone like Luna is a freaking tank. That might have played a role. So might have the disconnect between his club success and his skillset / how he's played for the US.
     
  9. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The phrase "almost as bad" is doing some real heavy lifting here....
     
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  10. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Of course the new talking point is moving to Europe causes you to get less consideration.

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    I wouldn’t have taken Ledezma but agree with you on Sargent.

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  11. Papin

    Papin BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 19, 1998
    le côté obscur
    Nat'l Team:
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    Talking points are like a**holes.
     
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  12. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Impressive work by Garber to get both Crocker and Pochettino in his pocket so quickly

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  14. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    Some of those 9s may end up being the wingers.
     
  15. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Umm..... The Gold Cup is in July.... these June Friendlies don't mean a whole helluva lot....... Poch is giving some players a much needed rest, and a much needed look at others.
     
  16. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Poch said something different:

    The former Tottenham Hotspur boss went on to add, “I think it's going to be a high percentage of the players that are going to be involved in the first two friendly games that [will] be involved in the Gold Cup.”
     
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  17. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Does anyone object to debating the meaning of high percentage for the next couple of pages?
     
  18. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Depends on what your definition of to is. :ROFLMAO:
     
  19. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    There is nothing in common between Brenden and Paxten except for the last name. Paxten is much stronger and wins most of the tackles. He is much more Benny Feilhaber than Brenden Aaronson.
     
  20. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
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    He will be at WC camp and competing for a spot.
     

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