We are going to 64 arent we guys.........

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  1. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
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    Yup.
    Now you got it.
     
  2. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I don't really see the point of hitting all corners of the world in one World Cup.

    There will be another WC 4 years after that. And 4 years after that.

    Do you also eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner all at once?
     
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  3. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Yes. I do.
     
  4. OWN(yewu)ED

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    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Saudi would have to phone a friend to take on a 64 team tournament. UAE would probably love to get in on that.
     
  5. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Instead of UAE, I would hope its Japan-Korea or China.
     
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  6. waitforit

    waitforit Member+

    Dec 3, 2010
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    FC Steaua Bucuresti
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    Romania
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  7. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    UEFA have already ruled out a 64-team WC so it's not going to happen.
     
  8. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    64 will be awesome. Although there will have to be simultaneously kickoffs like in champions league. That is what PIP or even an NFL style whip around show like Redzone can be used for. Take us to each match and show us the goals or near misses.
     
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  9. HomietheClown

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    Dusselheim FC 1971
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    Europe cannot stop the inevitable. The other Confederations will vote for it.
     
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  10. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    We've seen a steady move towards staggered kickoff times even in club football over the past 20 years, so I think at most there will be 2 matches with simultaneous kickoffs - and only during the group stage. Or you can have kickoffs separated by just 2 hours with no overlap at all.

    Its not necessary, imo, to have 1-2 hours gap between group stage matches when there is no chance of extra time.
     
  11. HomietheClown

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    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
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    TV Networks use the gaps for pregame conversations, analysis and behind the scenes stories. And of course ADVERTISING.
    So I don’t really see that going away soon.
     
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  12. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    They can still do that anyway without the 1-2 hours between each game. We see it in club football every weekend and Champions League now too.

    What's more important to the networks is that they can devote more time to showing live matches, and that will get cut down if you run a lot of matches simultaneously. You can run more advertising if you are showing matches from noon to midnight than just 5pm to 11pm.
     
  13. r0adrunner

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    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
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    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    They can and will!

    It's also the European Leagues who are against it.
     
  14. r0adrunner

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    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Outside South America no one wants this.

    It's pure greed.
     
  15. r0adrunner

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    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #40 r0adrunner, Jul 12, 2026
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2026
    After this WC - and especially after the Balogun case - FIFA's reputation in the West is in the gutter and so we can't rely on embarrassing them with how ridiculous an idea a 64-team WC is because they've reached virtually the lowest point in terms of reputation anyway.

    For evidence of how ridiculous it is, the only rationale for it given so far by the Conmebol president is that - to celebrate the centenary of the WC - "you can't leave anyone out of the party." Yes, he actually said that!

    While it's true that expanding the WC still further is likely to be welcomed across the global south, UEFA has been building a lot of soft political power there in recent years and I think it's precisely with these kind of developments in mind. Now they have sufficiently strong relationships with other confederations that their representatives on the FIFA Council wouldn't vote in favour of something which Europe - UEFA, national associations and leagues together - so strongly opposes and which would in any case be detrimental to world football.

    It's noteworthy that all of the worst performing teams came from the global south: Haiti, Iraq, Jordan, Panama, Tunisia and Uzbekistan, none of which collected a single point. Adding a further 16 teams of that calibre is completely ridiculous.

    Whatever Infantino says, we can be confident that this expansion won't happen.
     
  16. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    and when has THAT every stopped anyone?
     
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  17. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
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    All FIFA has to say is that it makes the brackets cleaner. Top 2 from each group goes to the round of 32. No more controversial rankings of third places. Then that may convince most confederations.
     
  18. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As would bribe $$$...easiest solution of all...sigh
     
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  19. r0adrunner

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    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    There's more to it than that and the majority oppose the idea.
     
  20. svelten

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    Jun 22, 2009
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    UEFA has a lot of say in things that are more tenuous, obviously CWC, confederations cup, competitions pertaining only to UEFA teams, laws of the game and overall fixture congestion especially when Infantino tried to push a 2 year world cup...

    but when it comes to the actual 4-year world cup IMO they are more or less powerless. It's the one competition they can't exactly pack their bags and say "we aren't going" - its own members would revolt. FIFA holds all the cards and its other association voting blocks (AFC, CAF, CONCACAF) are absolutely massive. There's nothing UEFA could actually do to stop a 64 team world cup.

    Those three confederations obviously want a 64 one because it means their teams get to be part of it. China and UAE, Nigeria and Cameroon, Jamaica and Costa Rica... I mean they all could've potentially been part of a 64 team cup. Italy would finally have made it as will big teams like Denmark, Wales and Slovakia so UEFA isn't left empty. Venezuela would finally have debuted.

    It's a hard call because I HATE the third place team rule and how stupid it was that teams were waiting to see who were in or out in the last few match days from groups *completely out of their control, but 48 teams was really, really was scraping the very bottom of the barrel for a World Cup caliber competition.

    32 was ideal, but between 48 and 64 I think the pros and cons kind of balance each other out.

    If 64 means we go back to top 2 teams advancing again like the old format... I can be ok with it. If there was somehow some guarantee I will not live long enough to see it expanded again because that would be complete nonsense.
     
  21. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    You can improve the format by using the Swiss model, you don't need to increase straight to 64 teams.

    AFC would surely be embarrassed to receive more places after its poor showing this year (not that I think they should lose places because I would hope they'll improve by 2030).

    I wouldn't underestimate UEFA's influence to recruit others to block this proposal. They've been working for years to ensure these kind of ideas never reach the point where they're put to a vote.
     
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  22. NorcalHockeyhooligan

    Feb 25, 2012
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder if certain member nations will think up a plan to prevent future embarrassment. For example, could there be a government (or FA) plan to have their nationals born - or at least mostly raised - in the countries of the Top Five European leagues, be developed in those European environments, and then “recall” their diaspora to represent them in the World Cup? Such a plan wouldn’t necessarily be limited to AFC. In this World Cup, it seems CAF has sort of done this, but through happenstance, rather than a clear decade(s) long thought out plan.
     
  23. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    um...do not hold your breathe;)
     
  24. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    By far and away, Cape Verde was my fave team, way more attractive than the USMNT.
     
  25. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Yep. 8 groups of six.

    Yeah, I would give them one more chance before reassessing how many teams each region should get. Similarly for CAF - yes, they had a great WC but let's see if they can sustain for 2 WCs before we think they have so many good teams and increase their allocation.
     
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