Watford Vs. Manchester United FC - Matchday 3 [R]

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Dark Savante, Aug 24, 2006.

  1. Dark Savante

    Dark Savante Member

    Apr 24, 2002
    Become the Tea Pot!!
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    Date : Saturday, 26 August 2006
    Time: 15:00 BST 09:00 EST
    Venue: Vicarage Road
     
  2. Think

    Think New Member

    Jul 2, 2005
    I think that watford badge is way too big
     
  3. littleman

    littleman Member

    Oct 18, 2005
    Frigging excited. Three United games in 8 days is damn good for my mental health :D Too bad there'll be a drought soon after this though..

    I expect Giggs to play only a small part in this since he's taken part in almost all of the last 2 games in 4 days. It's not as if I think he won't be able to handle the physical fatigue, but rather that SAF would be wise to better preserve Giggs this way for the rest of the season. Ole and Rossi will probably come on, as will Carrick. I'm curious as to whether we'll deploy a 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 this time...

    Regardless, I don't want to underestimate Watford, because 3 points from "smaller" sides are really the bread and butter of Champions. If we don't win this, we really don't deserve to be champs. Plus, this is very early in the season, when smaller sides aren't fighting against relegation and going into bunker mode yet. I suspect second meetings with such sides later in the season will see them sit back to earn draws alot more. For now I'll ease on the speculation and see what happens.. : )


    Oh, and Gary pulling out of Charlton is abit worrying. He's been getting injured quite frequently.
     
  4. Dark Savante

    Dark Savante Member

    Apr 24, 2002
    Become the Tea Pot!!
    Right. Time to forget about the euphoria of the last two games and move on. This is a marathon not a sprint and we need to make this set of positive results into an actual streak now.

    I don't think we can field Giggsy again. He looked tired in the 2nd half or the game yesterday and it's probably time for the old vet to have a rest. So we're left with Park or Richardson for the LW spot or, we could put Ronaldo there and play Fletcher on the right. Carrick is likely to start and so we need to either give him flank protection in a 4-4-2 or go to a 4-3-3.

    In a 4-4-2

    I'd go with this

    -------------VDS
    --------Rio--------Silvestre
    Brown----------------------Evra
    ---------Carrick---O'Shea
    Fletcher------------------Ronaldo
    -----------------Rossi
    ----------Saha

    Bench

    Kusczcak
    Richardson
    Jones
    Park
    Ole


    In a 4-3-3

    This:

    -------------VDS
    --------Rio--------Silvestre
    Brown----------------------Evra
    ------------O'Shea
    -----Fletcher------Carrick
    Park---------------------Ronaldo
    ------------Saha

    Bench

    Kusczcak
    Richardson
    Jones
    Rossi
    Ole


    Giggs is probably going to be on the bench at the expense of Jones. I'd prefer him not to be in this game. He needs a break and Spurs is a game you'd want Giggs fully fit for.

    Up the lads, lets see some continuity!
     
  5. Rakim_22

    Rakim_22 Member

    Manchester United
    Netherlands
    Sep 6, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Wow is Watford's mascot a fcuking moose?!? Hillarious!
     
  6. The Guv'nor

    The Guv'nor Member

    Mar 24, 2006
    Why would you put Fletcher on the wing ahead of Park?!:eek:
     
  7. Charleysurf

    Charleysurf Member

    Jul 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Fergie won't drop Fletcher after his good play in the last game. He will want to start Carrick though, so I guess he'll play Fletch on the right, even though he's not as good there as at CM.
     
  8. Dark Savante

    Dark Savante Member

    Apr 24, 2002
    Become the Tea Pot!!
    To protect Carrick and free him up somewhat. Think of Seedorf's job at Milan.
     
  9. StrikerCW

    StrikerCW Member

    Jul 10, 2001
    Perth, WA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why don't we put the date in the title now? This is confusing matchday bullshit.
     
  10. ASUCruz

    ASUCruz New Member

    Mar 17, 2005
    Los Angeles/Tempe
    I don't think Giggs will play either. Even when he was younger he spoke of having troubles with his hamstrings after playing 2 games in a week. I don't see how he can play 3 at this stage in his career.

    I think Watford is a good opportunity to field Rossi, perhaps even Richardson, but I do think Park will start. I like your formation DS except I would start Ronaldo on the left and Park on the right.


    -------------VDS
    --------Rio--------Silvestre
    Brown----------------------Evra
    ---------Carrick---O'Shea
    Park----------------------Ronaldo
    -----------------Rossi
    ----------Saha

    What do you mean by flank protection by the way? With O'Shea doing the donkey work in the midfield do we really need Fletcher in the side against a team like Watford?
     
  11. Dark Savante

    Dark Savante Member

    Apr 24, 2002
    Become the Tea Pot!!
    We have to learn to give every team we face utmost respect.. until we go there and get the pts. I think last season taught us that the 'little games' are where big points are won and we really have to remain focused and not get complacent. I heard the term 'bankers' thrown about a lot with the smaller teams and how we should expect 3pts off them, that's the first step to not winning the league. Mourinho made sure to rack up huge points against these teams and it essential we do that these season.

    As for Carrick. He needs flank protection in a 4-4-2. Like he got at Spurs with Davids, it's either that or play 4-3-3, which I don't think is smart whilst we seem to be flying. It may sound cautious, but Watford are at home and they are going to give it all that they have facing us, it's best to go in expecting to have a tough game where they try to kick lumps out of us. Fletcher handles that much better than Park, even though he is obviously inferior as a wide man.
     
  12. The Guv'nor

    The Guv'nor Member

    Mar 24, 2006
    Ah, thought you meant as an out and out wide man. Perhaps it would be worth putting Ronaldo on the right and giving Richardson that role, as he would give us pace on the break, and its a good chance to see what he can do this season.

    I'm just wondering when Jones & Rossi are finally going to get a chance. Also I'd prefer if Pique was still here because Silvestre has been getting chances at centreback! Very confusing.
     
  13. SirManchester

    SirManchester Member+

    Apr 14, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    We might just go with the 4-4-2 because it's an away game, and possibly switch to the 4-3-3 in the second to put the game away.
     
  14. ASUCruz

    ASUCruz New Member

    Mar 17, 2005
    Los Angeles/Tempe
    I think Jones and Rossi will feature in the Carling Cup. Early FA Cup action as well. Home matches against the relegation sides too perhaps?
     
  15. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    We wont get too excited, we'll take this one game at a time, and we're back to square one at each game. I think we should play this:

    -------------------VDS---------------------
    ----Brown-----Rio-------Silvestre:)rolleyes: )-----Evra:)D )

    ---------------Carrick---O'Shea--------------
    -----Park-----------------------------Giggs
    <-----------------Ronaldo------------------>
    --------------------Saha

    Since our central midfield is somewhat slow, we'll need hardworking players on each wing to come back and chase and harry for the ball. Ronaldo should play the role he's excelling in atm, which is a free one. He's absolutely dismantling teams with that type of freedom. Saha does his usual job of holding up the ball and being is usual strong, agile self.

    Prediction:

    2-0 United, Ronaldo, Saha
     
  16. MtP07

    MtP07 BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 3, 2005
    What I'd like to see:

    --------VdS
    Wesley---Rio--Silvestre---Evra
    Ole----Carrick--O'Shea---Ronaldo
    --------Rossi
    ---------Saha

    4-0....Saha x2, Rossi, Ronaldo
     
  17. Alfiesdodgyknee

    Alfiesdodgyknee New Member

    Mar 24, 2006
    Glazer's Pocket
    This is goin to be quite difficult imo this is watfords cup-final . Carrick is expected to start with gabby h maybe on the bench , we need to take points this sat to set us up for the match against the yiddos
     
  18. G-boot

    G-boot Member

    Manchester United
    Nov 6, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey, can any one of you tell me where to find the lineup set in stone, or does SAF keep his mouth sealed until kickoff? I'm guessing he usually does, but maybe you guys know of some insider websites.

    thanks.
     
  19. DutchFootballRulez

    Jul 15, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They get the lineup at the start of the match from various sources
     
  20. G-boot

    G-boot Member

    Manchester United
    Nov 6, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    just to clarify, who is they, and what are the sources. You see, I'm doing fantasy league, and friday nights are the cut off period for player selection.

    If they don't announce it until kickoff, then i'm out of luck. I want to pick both fletcher and park, but dont know if they'll start.
     
  21. B Rock

    B Rock Member

    Oct 7, 2004
    Not entirely comparable IMO.

    Spurs often lined up with a midfield of Lennon and then the three naturally central selections of Davids/Carrick/Jenas. While other combinations were tried out and players like Tainio were mixed in those three players started 28, 35, and 30 games of the Premiership campaign respectively.

    While Jenas can certainly perform some defensive duties, I think to compare him to O'Shea defensively does O'Shea a disservice. The slack that a midfield combination of Jenas/Carrick resulted in largely was picked up by Davids; however, I'd think that a midfield pairing of O'Shea/Carrick should be enough defensively to unanchor the wingers and let them fly around.

    Just my opinion, but I think accomodating Fletcher as a winger is simply too much of a burden offensively on the flanks for a team that likely will look to the outsides for its creativity and inspiration.
     
  22. Ronaldo07

    Ronaldo07 New Member

    Mar 2, 2005
    VDS

    Gary Rio Wes Evra

    Ronaldo Fletcher Carrick Park

    Saha Giggs

    it will be a shame on O'shea whos played well but i think we can afford sacrafice John for a more creative player in Carrick against Watford (no disrespect to them) and take a risk.

    i hope the team keeps settled, no load of changes, it's time to keep the preasure on Chelsea and see how they react, so i want us to be ruthless and attack straight away, none of this 4-3-3 crap.
     
  23. DutchFootballRulez

    Jul 15, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Officially its kickoff, but you can get a good estimate by looking at who Travels for Away matches.
     
  24. G-boot

    G-boot Member

    Manchester United
    Nov 6, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    thank you. I'll check that out.
     
  25. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    Manchester United 4-1 Watford
    Saha | Shittu
    Ole to the double
    Evra

    watford will try but class will shine throgh in the end.
    MOTM - Ronaldo/Carrick
     

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