Watch list Midfielders Orange team

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  1. Brilliant Oranje

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Mar 4, 2023
    Amsterdam and Marbella
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Koopmeiners is not exactly setting the world on fire at Juventus.

    1 goal in 20 games so far
     
  2. wilson00

    wilson00 Member+

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    at atalanta he had a free role to dictate things. At juventus he has to blend in and like in NT with frenkie he can't pull the strings like at AZ and atalanta. Also playing AM
     
  3. Brilliant Oranje

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Mar 4, 2023
    Amsterdam and Marbella
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    So right now go into the 2028 qualifiers the midfield should look like this (assuming we play 4-3-3 or 5-3-2)

    Frenkie------------Gravey-------------Reijnders
     
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  4. BaritoPutra

    BaritoPutra Member+

    Jan 26, 2007
    This is one the best NT midfielder line-ups in Europe... easily top-10, maybe even pushing top-5. On top of this, Xavi will add the fluidity and creativity when he drops deep from the attacking line (assuming he will be deployed initially in RW position, as he's always been).

    The biggest question is Frenkie's fitness and sharpness. And of course, they need to clock in some time together to build the chemistry. Having Koopmeiners (and Q. Timber) on the bench is such a luxury.
     
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    It's getting crowded with quality players for the midfield.
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    Voetbal International draws the conclusion this AZ midfield is of Champions League level, with Sven Mijnans as the outstanding one.
     

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  6. Brilliant Oranje

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Mar 4, 2023
    Amsterdam and Marbella
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Zirkzee played more of a midfield role today, and he actually had some really nice touches and passes.The rest of the team sucked though.

    If I were Amorim I would keep playing him in midfield

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    Koopmeiners and Reijnders should have stayed at AZ
    :D
     
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  8. Van Bergkamp

    Van Bergkamp Member

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Mar 3, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I watched Twente extra time to see how Steijn plays. To my susprise, his way of playing is very strange. He is midfield but does not call for the ball, instead he makes forward run and completely abandon the midfield. This allows Bodo over run Twente's midfield in extra time.

    I think he is another strange player similar to Zirkzee.
    _ Zirkzee: a forward that lacking killer instinct and keep calling for ball instead of waiting for cross
    _ Steijn: a midfield who made forward run from midfield

    In both ways, they are very hard to go to the next level due to the fact that they excel in some skills that is not hard requirement for the role and missing fundamental skill for their role.
     
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  9. windycity

    windycity Member

    Oct 19, 2001
    Where do you think
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    And of course Mijnans gets hurt today. Sounded serious from report I read
     
  10. Van Bergkamp

    Van Bergkamp Member

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Mar 3, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Justin Kluivert with another wonderful long strike! He is on fire!
     
  11. onzie77

    onzie77 Member

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    May 18, 2012
    miami
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Lately I've been able to watch more games and man we are so loaded in midfield. The real issue is a true world class 9. How should we lineup against Spain
    Even attacking i wonder if we should just put frimpong on the right wing
     
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  12. bunbohue

    bunbohue Member+

    Apr 5, 2005
    The main issue for me is that Koeman does not know how to bring the best out of these players or find/adjust the combination of 3 midfielders that works/balances. We can have the top 6 midfielders (which we do) and Koeman just find a way to not optimize what he has. They have to fit into what Koeman wants to play (and he is not really adapt well to today football). I just feel like Koeman was lucky to take the team as far as he did.
     
  13. Just look at Slot, who analyses the team performance real time and already is busy with transformations for the second half.
    Koeman is simply a posterboy of obsolete coaching and should be kept away from a training pitch of serious football teams.
     
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  14. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Little Israel (Mokum)
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Haha, on bluesky you have a number of Barcelona fans who hate it that De Jong is playing well.

    Sad, sad people. Only because they want to see La Masia thrash in the team.
     
  15. wilson00

    wilson00 Member+

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Exactly. Enough has been talked on this. I mean that's where the problem lies and koeman is dragging with it
     
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  16. Van Bergkamp

    Van Bergkamp Member

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Mar 3, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Kluivert with another assist today. He also had a disallowed goal because Semenyo was offside before passing to him. He is the best in form AM at this moment.
     
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    @wilson00 will be pleased by VI highlighting
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  18. bunbohue

    bunbohue Member+

    Apr 5, 2005
    Sem Steijn signed with Feyenoord. Perhaps Koeman will watch him more and call him up.
     
  19. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Little Israel (Mokum)
    Club:
    Feyenoord
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  20. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Little Israel (Mokum)
    Club:
    Feyenoord
  21. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
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