Watch list Midfielders Orange team

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  1. BaritoPutra

    BaritoPutra Member+

    Jan 26, 2007
    Mats Wieffer to Brighton.... nice move! BHA would be one of the EPL clubs to watch for Oranje fans. They already have Verbruggen, who should be playing more regularly, and not be ridiculously rotated like last season by the previous manager. Then, there's CB Jan Paul van Hecke, former Jong Oranje, who's improving fast and can push himself to NT.

    Then there's Joel Veltman too :p
     
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  2. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Moves from a team that will play CL football to a mid-table EPL team whose best aspiration is Conference League football.
     
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    As we unfortunately know an epl conference league playing team pays triple or more than an Eredivisie CL team.
    But I don't understand the rush to sign. What's wrong with waiting for a few weeks to see what comes about in this window.
     
  4. BaritoPutra

    BaritoPutra Member+

    Jan 26, 2007
    Well, the upside is that you will be playing in a top tier and more competitive league, facing some of the best midfielders in the world, week-in and week-out. You will have a long leash, that means you won’t be frozen out if you make a mistake or two… because your team’s squad is rather small, and budget is tight. Oh, btw, your team have a decent history of developing players and sending them to the next level… including World Cup winner MacAlister and best LB (and hairdo) in this Euro tournament so far Cucurella.

    I think there’s a lot to like here. The reality is, unless it’s an uber Eredivisie talent (Frenkie, Gakpo, Xavi) who can challenge minutes right away in an elite club, the tier-down talent would be better off taking the “stepping-stone” move… good developmental time and less risky!!

    Koopmeiners is a perfect example, Reijnders seems to be in the same trajectory.
     
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  5. You forgot to mention van Dijk and Ake.
     
  6. gabrielguilarte

    Feb 23, 2016
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Yes for me, Wieffer move is also great. Eredivisie level is hardly decent so players moving abroad at the right age seems to be a good plan.
    Also moving to a top club like Liverpool that was also interested could be a little bit too much. Let them settle in a mid table club for a couple of seasons and then move to a better top team.
    Best recent failure example Van de Beek. Even Gakpo was having some difficulties adapting at the beginning, although on his defense, he was being heavily rotated across the attack front.
     
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  7. BaritoPutra

    BaritoPutra Member+

    Jan 26, 2007
    Xavi will be staying at Leipzig this season on loan. I think this is the best outcome for him :thumbsup: He is playing in a familiar environment and can certainly build from what he did last season (10 goals 15 assists playing in a free-roaming AM role). Leipzing have exciting talents (Openda, Sesko, and EC winner Olmo), and they will be challenging Top 3 in BuLi again while playing in UCL.
     
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  8. Brilliant Oranje

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Mar 4, 2023
    Amsterdam and Marbella
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Anyone know whats going on with Frenkie??
    It doesnt appear he's included in Barca's preseason friendlies
     
  9. Did you miss my post about his ankle?
     
  10. Brilliant Oranje

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Mar 4, 2023
    Amsterdam and Marbella
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Yes I did.
    And instead of being a smartass about it, you couldve just reposted it




    Worrying signals coming out of Barcelona.
    It's not going well with Frenkie de Jong's ankle.
    [​IMG]
    His problem is with the syndesmosis and the bad part of that problem is that it can't be fixed with surgery
     
  11. WAsnot ment as smart assing, just a question.
     
  12. Brilliant Oranje

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Mar 4, 2023
    Amsterdam and Marbella
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Frenkie's injury occurred on March 3rd, so earliest he could return is September or October
     
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    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5344860/
    This article gives a gloomy perspective of the injury.
    Given the apparently neglect of the problem by Barcelona('s medical staff), the consequences of this injury can easily put an end to Frenkie's footballing career.
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  14. Brilliant Oranje

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Mar 4, 2023
    Amsterdam and Marbella
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
  15. Brilliant Oranje

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Mar 4, 2023
    Amsterdam and Marbella
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Wieffer got an assist today
     
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  16. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Gravenberch played the full 90 minutes today as the deep lying MF for Slot.
     
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    I thought he was injuredo_O
     
  18. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
  19. Brilliant Oranje

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Mar 4, 2023
    Amsterdam and Marbella
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
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    Reijnders is showing promise.
    Had a the bar clancking shot against Feyenoord.
     
  21. Brilliant Oranje

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Mar 4, 2023
    Amsterdam and Marbella
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
  22. Brilliant Oranje

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Mar 4, 2023
    Amsterdam and Marbella
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
  23. Brilliant Oranje

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Mar 4, 2023
    Amsterdam and Marbella
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
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    Around 7:09 and further is being spoken about his defensive weaknesses, something I mentioned just before he left for Liverpool.
     

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