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  1. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    LOL, I should have checked. He also scored in the draw.
     
  2. BaritoPutra

    BaritoPutra Member+

    Jan 26, 2007
    Mo Ihattaren is not in Morocco squad… much ado about nothing :cool:
     
  3. Jpows

    Jpows Member+

    F.C. Barcelona
    Netherlands
    Jun 4, 2018
    At least for now...
     
  4. venema20

    venema20 Member

    Jun 17, 2014
    Exactly. He had people reach out to the Moroccan camp for him. So clearly he is thinking about it. I guess they weren’t happy he didn’t personally reach out and sent people to do it for him
     
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  5. richsavare

    richsavare Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #280 richsavare, Jun 6, 2021
    Last edited: Jun 6, 2021
    Appears that Gini Wijnaldum is going to PSG and not to Barca and Ronald Koeman.
    Great move for PSG and for Wijnaldum who is to receive double the money that Barca were going to offer.
    Pochettino has been heavily involved with making this signing happen for PSG calling and speaking with the Oranje Captain, and wanted him to move to Spurs back in 2016.
     
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  6. If the news reports are correct his fee is 8 million€€ a year/season.
    On top of that he receives that money for three years, the contract length he wanted at Liverpool.
     
  7. Wijnaldum laat ‘leegte’ achter bij Liverpool: ‘Ik zal hem enorm missen’

    Liverpool-trainer Jürgen Klopp heeft lovende teksten over voor Georginio Wijnaldum, die zijn loopbaan vervolgt bij Paris Saint-Germain. Op de website van The Reds nam Klopp afscheid van de middenvelder, die hij bestempelt als ‘een Liverpool-legende’.

    Sportredactie 11-06-21, 09:27
    ,,Hij is eigendom van een andere club en namens het hele team wens ik hem veel succes bij PSG. Het is geen verrassing dat hij naar zo’n geweldige club gaat. Hem kennende zal hij verliefd worden op de stad en het team en dat zal andersom ook zo zijn. Tot kijk, Gini. Je kwam, zag en won een hoop. Je bent voor altijd een Liverpool-legende”, zei Klopp.
    ,,Ik zal hem als speler enorm missen. Hij is een van de slimste spelers die ik ooit heb getraind en hij heeft ontzettend veel bijgedragen. Hij is het ideaalplaatje van iedere manager.”

    Ook als persoonlijkheid gaat Klopp de 30-jarige Wijnaldum missen. ,,Ook als speler zal hij een leegte achterlaten. Hij is erg sterk en eigenwijs, maar hij wilde altijd het team helpen. Zijn ploeggenoten waren dol op hem en respecteerden hem in gelijke mate. Zijn glimlach verlichtte onze werkplek.”

    Wijnaldum heeft voor drie jaar getekend in Parijs.



    Wijnaldum leaves 'void' at Liverpool: 'I will miss him big time'

    Liverpool coach Jurgen Klopp has praise for Georginio Wijnaldum, who continues his career at Paris Saint-Germain. On the website of The Reds, Klopp said goodbye to the midfielder, who he labels as "a Liverpool legend". Sports editorial 11-06-21, 09:27

    ,,He is owned by another club and on behalf of the whole team I wish him every success at PSG. It's no surprise that he goes to such a great club. Knowing him, he will fall in love with the city and the team, and vice versa. See you there, Gini. You came, saw and won a lot. You are forever a Liverpool legend," said Klopp. ,,I will miss him a lot as a player. He's one of the smartest players I've ever trained and he's contributed a lot. He is the ideal picture of every manager.” Also as a personality, Klopp will miss 30-year-old Wijnaldum. ,,Even as a player, he will leave a void. He is very strong and stubborn, but he always wanted to help the team. His teammates loved him and respected him equally. His smile lit up our workplace.” Wijnaldum has signed for three years in Paris.
     
  8. richsavare

    richsavare Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Klopp knows how very difficult it will be to replace Gini who proved to be invaluable with his tactical flexibility, work rate, and consistency.

    On top of that he played almost always.

    Great piece of business by PSG and Pochettino for hijacking the move from Barca who lose out on the current Oranje Captain.

    Absolutely top class player, and brilliant signing who by the way was wanted badly by Bayern Munich.
     
  9. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Any hopes of Van Ginkel reinforcing the midfield next summer.
    Guus Til is another one to look out for and I hope he can get back into contention after joining feyenoord and under slot.
     
  10. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    ZERO to both. Til is just average and van Ginkel has not played a full season in a long time. Other choices are much better.
     
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  11. https://www.espn.com/soccer/uefa-eu...ayer-every-top-teamfrom-liverpool-to-psgneeds
    Netherlands captain Wijnaldum is the type of player every top team, from Liverpool to PSG, needs
    Jun 16, 2021
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      Tom HamiltonSenior Writer

    As the madness of the Netherlands' opening Euro 2020 match against Ukraine played out on Sunday, Georginio Wijnaldum was one of the Dutch players trying to bring some order to the wonderful chaos.

    He put in a captain's performance, too, scoring their opener with a wonderfully taken strike 15 yards out, and later, as the match looked to be slipping away from them as Ukraine came back from two goals down to draw the game level, he slowed the play down, helped refocus his team and was in the thick of the action before Denzel Dumfries headed in the game-winning goal.

    Wijnaldum looked exhausted after the 3-2 win, but he'd put in the sort of performance that showed why Barcelona and Bayern Munich inquired about signing the midfielder before he announced he'd join another super-club, Paris Saint-Germain, after his Liverpool contract expires this summer.


    Wijnaldum is an understated captain. He leads by example with a relentless workrate, an incredible ability to read passes and a quiet, consistent leadership. But he's also the sort of player every successful team needs: he's the glue who can cover all three facets of the modern central midfielder, comfortable as the holder, the presser or the attacking No. 10. That's why Liverpool desperately wanted to keep him and why, for all the hype over his future, it wouldn't have affected his focus on Oranje duties at all.

    If you looked at Frank de Boer's inbox before the Euros, any concerns over Wijnaldum weren't high on his pre-tournament panic list. Instead, he dealt with Matthijs de Ligt's groin injury suffered in training, the absence of Virgil van Dijk and the criticism of his preferred 5-3-2 formation over the traditional Dutch 4-3-3. There were question marks over who'd start in goal and what combination of forwards would be used up front, but the ever-dependable Wijnaldum was never a concern. His importance is further told through his stats: In his past eight Netherlands matches, he has scored five goals and has two assists.

    Wijnaldum has already bid farewell to Liverpool, too, receiving a guard of honour in their final home match against Crystal Palace on May 23 and a plaque recognising his success with the Reds, including the Champions League and Premier League title he helped win in his five-year spell at the club.

    "It was very emotional," Wijnaldum told ESPN. "I didn't think I would get this kind of goodbye. Players that left before me did not get something like this.

    "Of course, it's a pity I left Liverpool. I had a lot of beautiful memories with the team. My relationship with the fans is really good. It is what it is. One day I'll tell my story about how it all went. In that way, the fans will understand why I left the club."

    Wijnaldum, 30, was unwilling to expand further, but in an interview with Voetbal International, he said "things happen behind the scenes that are beyond your control as a player." That can wait.

    Growing up, Wijnaldum wanted to be an acrobat, but it was in football where he found his calling. Having come through Sparta Rotterdam's system, he moved to Feyenoord's academy in 2004. He still holds the record as the youngest-ever Feyenoord player, debuting at 16 years and 148 days in their Eredivisie match against Groningen on April 8, 2007. He was named Man of the Match.

    Wijnaldum scored the Netherlands' first goal at Euro 2020 and his all-round performance in the win vs. Ukraine showed why every top club in Europe has been offering him a contract after his Liverpool deal expires on June 30. Eric Verhoeven/Soccrates/Getty Images
    From talking to those who have watched Wijnaldum develop, the consensus is that he was never one to cause controversy, instead staying close to his grandmother, Francina, who raised him.

    Gertjan Verbeek managed Feyenoord for part of the 2008-09 season, and remembers Wijnaldum at 17.

    "It was early in his career," Verbeek tells ESPN. "He was a great talent. He was always smiling, even in the hardest training sessions. He was so young, but he already had a lot of responsibility. The influence of his grandmother was very important for him, too. He took care of his grandmother, and his grandmother took care of him and his brothers."

    Verbeek remembers what Wijnaldum was like around the older pros in a Feyenoord team that had respected Dutch internationals. "He was very stable in thinking and in what he wanted to achieve, and how to do it. We had big names in that squad like Roy Makaay and Giovanni van Bronckhorst, but even though he was 17, when he spoke, they listened. Great players understand the young talented players as they respect each other."

    At Feyenoord he was used both as an attacking midfielder and a makeshift striker. He eventually settled into central midfield, where his performances led to PSV securing a £5m transfer in 2011. There, he helped them to the 2015 Eredivisie title, forming a wonderful understanding with Memphis Depay; the pair will hopefully lead the Dutch to success this summer. When he won the Golden Boot in 2015, the award for the Dutch Player of the Year, he tearfully paid tribute to his grandma, who presented him with the trophy.

    In July 2015, he made the switch to Newcastle United for £14.5m. After an impressive individual season in which Newcastle were relegated, Liverpool brought him in the following summer for £23m. He quickly became a key cog in the Reds' midfield under Jurgen Klopp, scoring two essential goals from the bench in their remarkable Champions League semifinal win over Barcelona in 2019.

    Like all of Wijnaldum's coaches through the years, Klopp trusted him in the big occasions: he started their 2018 Champions League final which ended in defeat against Real Madrid, but made up for it when he was again in the starting XI in their 2-0 win over Tottenham Hotspur in 2019. Then, in the disrupted 2019-20 season, he played in all but one Premier League match as Liverpool won their first top flight title in 30 years.

    This season, with less than a year on his contract, Wijnaldum's future started to be the topic of heated debate. The rumours with Barcelona started in September, with his contract up in June 2021 meaning he would be available on a free transfer. Wijnaldum continued to be one of the first names on the team sheet for the remainder of the season, featuring in every Premier League match as top clubs on the continent started calling. In May, Wijnaldum seemed set to join Barcelona: His agent met Barcelona president Joan Laporta twice in late May, agreeing on a deal worth €5.5m after tax -- a contract worth €11m net. They had the medical planned for June 7, the day after a Dutch friendly vs. Georgia on June 6, with confirmation set to follow.

    On June, 4 ESPN broke the news of PSG's late bid. Bayern Munich were also interested, but PSG tabled an offer double what Barcelona had mustered together. Sources tell ESPN that Wijnaldum's representatives were also impressed by PSG sporting director Leonardo, who sold the project well alongside the financial incentives. PSG boss Mauricio Pochettino also called Wijnaldum to talk through his plans for the club. Then, before the Euros started, Wijnaldum informed both Barcelona and Bayern Munich he would not be taking up their offers and would become a PSG player.

    "What I can say is that I made a different choice," Wijnaldum said. "It was a difficult choice. PSG was more decisive and faster. The project also really appealed to me.

    "During the European Championship, you want to be one hundred percent focused on the tournament. It was a hectic week in which I had to make choices. They are two big clubs that I would like to play for. It's a relief that I've made the choice before the Euros, because it's going to play in your head anyway."

    After such a comprehensive club career, Wijnaldum's just missing a similar level of success on the international stage. His first and only major tournament with De Oranje came back in the 2014 World Cup; he even scored against Brazil as the Dutch won the bronze medal. They missed out on qualification for Euro 2016 and the World Cup in 2018, but all eyes are now on Wijnaldum to join 1988 Euros captain Ruud Gullit in leading the Netherlands to what would be just their second major trophy.

    "If you look at the other teams you see a lot of them have a lot of qualities," Wijnaldum told ESPN. "Some of them also have more tournament experience. But anything can happen during a tournament. The best squad doesn't always win the tournament. We have to grow and improve during the tournament."

    For the Dutch, that journey began with their 3-2 win against Ukraine in Amsterdam and continues against Austria on June 17. Wijnaldum will lead the team out as a reluctant leader -- he's spoken recently of how he feels the injured Van Dijk or Kevin Strootman, left out of the Netherlands' squad for the Euros, are more natural leaders -- but Verbeek feels he is the ideal man to lead Oranje through this competition.

    "His work ethic is very high, always working hard, always stable," Verbeek says. "He's the leader, not only in talking, but how he plays in the game."
     
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  12. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
  13. He's very fit and looking hungry to play. Huge contrast with last season.
     
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  14. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    must also say, Van Ginkel is looking sharp as well in the pre season games..
     
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  15. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Was last season his second season?
     
  16. As a first team selection member, yes.
     
  17. Indeed he does. Let's hope he keeps injuries at bay.
    Him being fit and healthy is a welcome addition to the midfielers choices.
     
  18. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I will believe all this hype only if PSV win their Champions League qualifier. Unfortunately, I am not optimistic.
     
  19. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    We call it the sophomore slump in the states. It happens to a lot of second year players. And your first season is not much footage of you and you catch most of the league and a lot of defenders unprepared. By your second season there's plenty of game footage and everybody starts to figure out how to adapt to you and your strengths and play to your weaknesses so now it's on you as a player to develop your game and become more well-rounded and remain a threat.
     
  20. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    whats yours stances now looking at their performances? this is what I having been saying throughout about the dutch flops returning to eredivsie and then getting the nod in NT similary to klaassen and berghuis. on another note Till is still young and the move to feyenoord could help get his career get back on track compared to others.
     
  21. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Gravenberch is miles ahead of either of them.
     
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  22. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Xavi Simons had a strong pre-season but is now on the stands. That's unfair. With a dozen first teamers out.

    He does already speak French though.

     
  23. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Best hope for a loan to Lyon or St. Etienne or maybe Rennes if they sell Camavaga
     
  24. Wasnot Xavi flirting with the Spanish nat team?
    Anyway, I donot consider him a Dutch product and as the Orange Squad in my opinion is the showcase of what our Dutch soccer culture is about, I've no need for him in the Orange shirt. He didnot live/grow up in the Netherlands, developed completely outside of our systems and has no connection with Dutch culture.

    We're no Yanks who appropriate people who never set one foot in the States before and celebrate them as if they're a product of the mighty USA.
     
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