WashPost - Wizards (BBall) Inflate Attendance

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by EdTheRed, Dec 7, 2003.

  1. EdTheRed

    EdTheRed Member+

    Feb 6, 2001
    Loose On The Town
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Cook Islands
  2. Serie Zed

    Serie Zed Member

    Jul 14, 2000
    Arlington
    Except that as far as I can tell they do the same thing. Somehow, magically, 7000 people in the seats shows up at 15,459 in the box score.
     
  3. greatscott

    greatscott Member+

    Dec 21, 2002
    Richmond
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    also, i once saw all the ticket checkers sitting there spinning the turnstyles with their hands. i saw this happen probably for a full 2 minutes right at about the 35th minute during the crew match, you know, the one where the announced was 19k.
    i used to think that they got their attendance from seats sold, guess not.
     
  4. neilgrossman

    neilgrossman New Member

    May 12, 2000
    Hoboken, NJ
    It's amazing that the run an article about the Wizards and not the Mystics. The Mystics are the biggest culprit, and they have the nerve to hang "attendance champion" banners.

    I think EdTheRed is forgetting the Skins and the Terps if he believes DCU might be the biggest draw.
     
  5. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe they were accounting for season ticket holders who had paid, but not shown up.
     
  6. EdTheRed

    EdTheRed Member+

    Feb 6, 2001
    Loose On The Town
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Cook Islands
    I wasn't forgetting about the Skins and the Terps...they're not "in town," they're in the suburbs. ;)

    This has been hashed out elsewhere on BigSoccer before, but DC United counts "paid attendance," so if you have season tickets and don't show up, you're still counted as having attended. From a bottom-line point of view, you might as well have attended. I believe that if you turn in unused tickets to a game later in the season, your exchanged tickets are not counted towards paid attendance. What this means is that the last couple of home matches often have higher actual attendance than they do paid attendance.

    What DC United doesn't do is give away massive numbers of tickets to fill empty parts of the stands.
     
  7. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 29, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Perhaps because it's too hard to find people who want them?
     
  8. Richth76

    Richth76 New Member

    Jul 22, 1999
    Washington, D.C.
    The difference is that Abe Polin owns MCI Center, so when someone shows up with a Freebie ticket, that's automatically (in my case anyway) two $6 beers, a $4 Nacho, and probably third beer they would have otherwise not sold.

    If United gives a freebie what do they get? Nothing.
     
  9. neilgrossman

    neilgrossman New Member

    May 12, 2000
    Hoboken, NJ
    I think the Caps double-count those fans who pay for an early season game, but go to a late season game.

    Does this mean we are the only pro team that doesn't cheat? (Although the Redskins may not inflate attendance, they certainly consider a partially-sold stadium to be a sellout.)
     
  10. Claymore

    Claymore Member

    Jul 9, 2000
    Montgomery Vlg, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder how pissed the Wizard's season ticket holders are that the same seat two sections over is being heavily discounted or given away when they've paid full price.
     
  11. Tweaked

    Tweaked Member

    Jan 30, 2003
    The Hill
    All these leagues/teams inflate their attendance figures via one method or another...during the ABC telecast they claimed the MLS Cup game at Home Depot was sold out but there were clearly empty seats.
     
  12. SpongeBobSquarePants

    Jun 18, 2003
    Silver Spring
    I was told by an employee w/ DCU that the Stadium Authority charges them $4 for every person comes in. If that is so, these employees were bumping up the price on DCU.
     
  13. Bill-DC

    Bill-DC Member+

    May 20, 2002
    Man, that's f***ed up.
     
  14. Mountainia

    Mountainia Member+

    Jun 19, 2002
    Section 207, Row 7
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is actually a very good point. DC United only gets money from tickets, so it doesn't make sense to give them away just to boost attendance figures.

    What does make sense is to have specials for younger fans. If they go when they're 12-17, they'll go when they're older. At least that's the way it worked for me and my friends.
     
  15. Th4119

    Th4119 Member+

    Jul 26, 2001
    Annandale, VA
    That and the fact that if they go before they're around 16 most of the time they're going with their parents.
     
  16. Atouk

    Atouk BigSoccer Supporter

    DC United
    Apr 16, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Season ticket holders don't pay full price. My season tickets cost $15 per game but have a face value of $50 (in the lower part of Section 416, one section off of the center section in the upper deck). That's a very fair price (I wouldn't go to many at $50, that's for sure) and buying the season ticket gets me a much better seat than what they're giving away. If they give away some upper corner seats to youth groups or non-profits, that doesn't bother me.
     

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