Washington Post: Decision on Harkes

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by Lowecifer, Feb 25, 2003.

  1. Lowecifer

    Lowecifer Member+

    Jan 11, 2000
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Washington Post: D-Day for Harkesie

    From Steven Goff:

    Hudson to Decide on Harkes Today

    Thanks Steven.

    Also, it's good that DC & USSF have addressed the mystery surrounding Tino's "Family Issues", although no details were given.

    I hope everything is okay with his family.
     
  2. elconejito

    elconejito Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    Where Homer Lives
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wish him the best (especially if he plays for us).

    Who do you think will get the ax if he signs?
     
  3. eltico

    eltico Member

    Jul 16, 2000
    Can he take Chino's roster spot?
     
  4. mellon002

    mellon002 Member

    Jan 24, 2003
    Towson, MD
    I think so.
     
  5. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Re: Washington Post: D-Day for Harkesie

    I don't think the club and the fed are doing Tino any favors by not being more specific about why he's missing training with United and the U20 team.

    All being vague does is lead to more speculation. I mean, we've already got the papa and whitey rumors and the longer they act like they have something to conceal the more suspcious people are going to get and the more rumors and speculation we're going to see.

    Whatever it is, it can't be that bad if he's expected back "soon". Just come out and say what it is, let us overreact to it for a day or so and then let it die a natural death as we move on to other issues.

    Regardless, props to Goff for inquiring about this and trying to get an official explanation.
     
  6. DigitalTron

    DigitalTron New Member

    Apr 4, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    It's nice to see Stewart break his duck with a brace in the scrimmage against Lyn. 7-0, wow, I'd say that's a good day's work.

    Best of luck to Harksie, regardless of Hudson's decision, he'll always be a DC United Captain in my eyes.

    -Tron
     
  7. Detective40oz

    Detective40oz Member

    Jun 16, 2000
    Fairfax, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    at least our leading scorer Nellie got back to his scoring ways :)
     
  8. GUTuna

    GUTuna Member

    Mar 23, 2000
    Washington, DC USA
    It'll be interesting to see if they actually bring back Harkes.

    If they decide not to it'll be another ignominious end for another great '94 USMNTer and all around great player. To think, getting cut by the team you wanted to end your career with in favor of some young unknown (no offense to our young unknowns).
     
  9. Cweedchop

    Cweedchop Member+

    Mar 6, 2000
    Ellicott City, Md
    I got confirmation from one of our media types who said basically the same thing Goff said regarding Tino..

    What this media icon said which is different from Goff's story is that Tino is rapidly running out of chances with both United and the USSF with his "behavior"..

    This my friends, is the downside of going pro at 15 years old..

    Tino, you have worlds of talent... Grow up my friend...
     
  10. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Re: Re: Washington Post: D-Day for Harkesie

    Maybe it's none of our business.
     
  11. JBG - Bribe Taker

    Mar 17, 2000
    Mt. Pleasant, SC
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Back to Harkes, anyone heard what he may do if he fails to make the DCU roster? Any other MLS teams sniffing around? A-League? Retire?
     
  12. Footer Phooter

    Jul 23, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    Re: Re: Re: Washington Post: D-Day for Harkesie

    That was my thought as well.
     
  13. Z010 Union

    Z010 Union Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: Re: Washington Post: D-Day for Harkesie

    CHICO, I'd agree with you if he was still training with some team, but it sounds like he's not. I am concerned that one of our stars is not in camp due to personal reasons. While in an ideal world, all of us could accept that, but, in the age of information overload, many of us, including me, expect explanations for everything.

    We are 45 days from opening the season, and one of our better players and bonafide stars is MIA with no official reason why, leading to speculation and independant "fact finding". This would be better handled with the truth first and damage control later, rather than the opposite. I understand their concern and reticence to discuss what the personal reasons are and feel bad for Teen-O if they are as rumored, though being a dad might help him mature.
     
  14. Topo

    Topo Member

    Feb 15, 2001
    It's out business until he retires, quits, leaves, or otherwise removes himself from any relationship with the team (or league, or sport).

    If it has any bearing on the product that DC United puts on the field (or fails to put on the field), it's our business.

    It's nice to see Nelsen starting his campaign for DC United Golden Boot with a good warm-up.
     
  15. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Washington Post: D-Day for Harkesie

    Well, I'd like to know the reasons as much as you would Bryan, or anyone else that follows the team as closely as we do. But I think that "family issues" and "personal reasons" are just that. Being a pro athlete and being in the spotlight should not mean giving up your privacy. I want Tino to succeed as much as the next guy, but I think whatever issues he needs to work thru should be done with his family and not in the press or on an internet forum.
     
  16. mellon002

    mellon002 Member

    Jan 24, 2003
    Towson, MD
    And how does that make his personal life our business? IT DOESN'T! Let's all just be patient and give Tino some time. How does announcing what is wrong with his family impact your life? Back off.
     
  17. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While I do agree he needs to grow up, he is 18. All of us should remember how stupid we thought those people older than were. Maybe he does need a swift kick in the @#$& but lets mantain some perspective here. He is only 18 and still has lots of life lessons left to learn.
     
  18. cherno

    cherno New Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Charlottesville, VA
    HARKES

    Don't we already have a separate thread about Tino and the mysterious "personal issues?"

    Back to Harkesie: If we did sign Harkes and cut (hopefully) Chino what would that bring the average age of our lineup up to. It'd have to be the highest in the league. Etch, Hristo, Ernie, and Harkes all on the same team? Though as long as they're not all on the field at the same time it might be a great environment to develop our kids.
     
  19. RMDad

    RMDad New Member

    Nov 15, 2001
    Fredericksburg, Va.
    I hope Harkes shows well, and makes his swan-song at United.

    As for Tino...........
    I feel it is a great dis-service to Santino and his family for us to speculate and rumor-monger.
    Family matters can be trying enough without having to bare all to a nosey, ever prying public.
    Leave the boy be, and satisfy your morbid curiosities elsewhere.
    Mark
     
  20. Hedbal

    Hedbal Member+

    Jul 31, 2000
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I too would take Harkes over the visa-less Alegria, but I wonder if he really is in competition with Bryan Namoff for the "last" spot on the roster. Apparently, Namoff has been playing well, and at a variety of positions. He is gritty and versatile (remember his fine stint at left back late in the season?), in addition to being young. Of course, he may be no cheaper than Harkesie at this point. Harkes has been playing D-mid, where Nelson is pencilled in as the starter, but we know he will be away on Nat team duty from time to time. If it came down to one of these two, which to take?
     
  21. jkorzen

    jkorzen New Member

    Jun 25, 2001
    washington, dc
    I was glad to hear that Harkes was playing in the defensive mid spot. He's certainly a player with the right attitude for that position.

    Guess its up to Hudson to decide if Harkes still has it in him to make a difference there. I hope so. Personally I think I guy like Harkes would show a lot more heart and fire than some other players have the past few years.
     
  22. stevengoff

    stevengoff New Member

    Feb 13, 2000
    Washington DC
    DCU has decided not to sign Harkes.
     
  23. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Thanks for the update Mr. Goff. Now if he decides to retire, we should work on a "John Harkes Day" at the stadium.
     
  24. slacker

    slacker Member

    Nov 20, 2001
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    other options as D-mid still to come?

    Well I'm a little bit sad.

    I'd have thought that not playing much the past few years, being traded around and having his salary cut several times, and then being cut would have done enough to reform Harkes' ego/attitude that he would not be "too much of a good thing" (i.e. veteran leadership but with a strong personality and ego) as Hudson seemed to hint in the article.

    Perhaps though it is not so much a problem with Harkes as that Hudson still has some other options in mind for D-mid. If not, then I sure hope that Namoff continues to improve or that Carroll or Woodworth makes a really fast transition to MLS. We're going to need someone solid to cover for Nelsen when he's off with the Kiwis nats this summer!!
     
  25. Sundevil9

    Sundevil9 Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Reston, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Too bad, I was looking forward to some "ooh ahh Johnny Harkes" chants......
     

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