Was the Superliga a success?

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by FijiUnited, Aug 30, 2007.

  1. FijiUnited

    FijiUnited Member+

    Feb 21, 2007
    Orlando
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it was. Every team in the tournament showed passion, commitment, and brought their A-game to try and win this thing. LA were the ultimate underdogs and were heartbreakingly unlucky to not walk away winners. For once they were not completely undone by themselves. In fact, if they had started their season and played every game with that kind of fire they'd be top choice for the Supporter's Shield. But, maybe now that its finally over they will turn their energy towards the rest of the season and clinch that final playoff berth. Not holding my breath, but there is still hope for them and it was demonstrated last night and, if they don't make the playoffs, they are going to be very dangerous next season.
     
  2. Schall

    Schall New Member

    Jul 25, 2007
    I would say if the goal was gaining noteriety and respect as a league, yes.
     
  3. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hmm, 'smashing' not a poll option?
     
  4. The 92nd Fish

    The 92nd Fish Member

    Jan 16, 2007
    London, England
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    No English language TV coverage and a final capped at 12.5k capacity didn't exactly help the non soccer fanatic's view of the tournament, that hardly shouts major competition to me. And as Wahl said, it never really seemed like the Mexican teams, Pachuca aside cared much for it, other than as a pre season warm up to get some match fitness.

    But on the plus side, most of the matches were full blooded affairs and produced good entertainment, even the American vs American matches were pretty good, especially the goalfest between Dallas and Los Angeles, the tournament started to show some signs of transferring the national rivalry across to the club game, and MLS sides didn't look at all bad when competing, even if it was against pre season teams who couldn't really care.

    Next season, the prize money needs to be raised to $1.5m, the tournament needs to progress to a proper home and away group stage (lets see how the MLS clubs do in Mexico eh ?) and one of MLS' English language TV partners needs to pick it up, if it's to continue the progress that has begun this year. The performance based qualification will also help it's legitimacy and prestige somewhat, compared to the invitational pre season money spinning tournament feel it had to it this year.

    And no scheduling the final in an obviously stupid timeslot.
     
  5. SideshowBob

    SideshowBob Member

    Jan 12, 2007
    Maryland
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I totally disagree. Chivas and Morelia sure as hell seemed to care as well. Club America is the only Mexican squad IMHO that seemed to blow it off (though they played hard against Morelia).

    I don't think we would seen brawls in almost every match if the teams didn't care about the games.
     
  6. MightyMouse

    MightyMouse BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 19, 2003
    Island paradise east of the mainland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Considering I wasn't expecting much turnout for this tournament, yes, Superliga was a complete success.
     
  7. mitzTHFC

    mitzTHFC New Member

    Apr 25, 2007
    Syracuse
    Successful... in giving Pachuca $1 million.

    And putting 12,500 people into a stadium for a final.
     
  8. ECUNCHATER

    ECUNCHATER Member

    Sep 30, 1999
    I agree that it needs to be played throughout the year with h&h series.
     
  9. Michigan Bayern Fan

    Michigan Bayern Fan New Member

    Aug 20, 2006
    Melvindale, Michigan
    The Superliga was a huge success. Obviously, it is going to have to become a home-and-home series in order to become truly legitimate, but I think that the passion, intensity, and quality of play were superb in all games. I also disagree with a previous poster who suggested the Mexican clubs were not taking it seriously; the large number of cautions issued would suggest otherwise. Even Club America, with nothing to play for in their last group stage game against Morelia, went all-out in their 3-1 win. Home and home format and English language TV are a must to improve this event in the future but I would restrict entrance to the top four regular-season point earners from both leagues. To add more teams from each league would make it less of a "Super" league and more of an average league. If organizers are commited to expansion, I would recommend only four additional teams to avoid fixture congestion; the top two from UNCAF, the CFU champion and the Canadian champion (TFC, Montreal Impact and the Vancouver Whitecaps would have to play a home and home series to determine this).

    When 2007 hits the record books, it will be said that the best matches played in the calendar year were from Superliga and the Concacaf Champions Cup indicating that the USA-Mexico rivalry has now fully expanded to the club level.
     
  10. MLS1FAN

    MLS1FAN Member+

    May 11, 2004
    Miami Beach,FL
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1) For the MLS, YES!
    2) For the MFL, YES!
    3) For Pachuca, YES!
    4) For LA Galaxy, NO!
     
  11. touch line

    touch line New Member

    Jul 3, 2007
    I enjoyed it, but looking forward to next seasons where teams actually have to qualify and spots are not just gifted to teams (Ahem LA).

    Also, play half the matches in Mexico.

    Make it a more legit competition.

    Then air it english

    Good tourny though. The games were a good watch.

    Thank you and good evening.
     
  12. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    The Gaxaly lost again, so YES it was a success!
     
  13. BVgolski07

    BVgolski07 Member

    Aug 8, 2007
    Milwaukee
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    why would anyone bring up the capacity? It was capped, I'm sure they could have got quite a large crowd if the game would have been moved. Obviously it was a success, and proved for the most part that MLS is on par with the mexican league
     
  14. broder

    broder Member

    Jan 18, 2007
    Mission
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are you Jade in disguise? :p j/k

    I do think the Superliga was a success, I'm sure it will become a home and home series eventually. The only thing that needs change is the qualification process. It seems like a lot of people want all these changes, like adding more teams, or adding South American teams. You have to let the tournament solidify itself first. Get more sponsors, tv deals, and let it gain a national footprint first. Then worry about making it better.
     
  15. Goldenballs

    Goldenballs New Member

    Jul 17, 2007
    West Los Angeles
    Yes, Superliga was a success.

    Why?

    1. It shows that the MLS can hang with teams from the Mexican league; a league that is looked as the best league outside of Europe.

    2. It provides MLS teams experience against teams of decent talent outside of the MLS.

    3. It is a stepping stone to break the european monopoly of football. This is a step to make the Superliga into something similar to that of the Champions League in Europe. If the long term results are successful, the Superliga can develop into something very special in the soccer world.

    With time and some good success, Superliga can enhance the prestige of both the MLS and the Mexican league. Let's face it, the MLS is pretty much disrespected globally, including in our own country. The result of the Superliga will raise the bar on competition and provide some entertainment. This is exactly what we need so that we can continue to build soccer in the Americas.
     
  16. ugaaccountant

    ugaaccountant New Member

    Oct 26, 2003
    While that's nice, LA was the team that stepped up and made the final and then took a highly ranked club to PK's with $1M dollars on the line and their best player in a suit on the sideline.
     
  17. sirfallsalot_2000

    Apr 18, 2006
    St. Louis, MO
    Club:
    AC St. Louis
    I think the SuperLiga will only get better. This was pretty much a trial run, with no qualifications. I think the format, scheduling and qualification (already done) will improve for next go around. I agree that the 12,500 fans was disappointing/mistake....but honestly not many people watched it one tv so no harm done right?
     
  18. jade1mls

    jade1mls Member

    Jul 9, 2006
    Seattle
    Premature question.

    Next year is 'the Real SuperLiga" remember, this was a very limited version of what is to come according to Don Garber.
    Watch this space: www.superliga2008.com
     
  19. metros11

    metros11 Member

    Sep 11, 1999
    Highlands of NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Dynamo-Pachuca and LA-Pachuca games were some of the most exciting matches I've seen. I will certainly say that the SuperLiga was a success and hopefully it grows with each year.
     
  20. touch line

    touch line New Member

    Jul 3, 2007
    I hear ya. You guys hung in against a real good club. CK's goal was simply AMAZING. LA had a real good tournament.

    That said, I don't think you guys should have even had the opportunity to play in the tournament. You didn't do anything to earn a spot. It was a gift. That cheapens it for me.

    Your 2005 championship cheapened the whole concept of MLS Cup for me aswell. You played garbage ball all year edging out 2 new teams, then simply won 3 and tied one to wrap up the title. To me that doesn't speak champion to me either. It's just way to easy of a feat to be impressed with.

    No offense to LA or its fans, I just have more respect for teams that earn their keep. Winning as a result of a gifted spot or a soft playoff format just doesn't float my boat.

    Again though, all that aside, nice tournament. You guys did MLS proud.
     
  21. scheck

    scheck Member+

    Mar 13, 2007
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think that we can say the excitement of the matches will bring English language TV, bigger prize money and bigger crowds next year.
     
  22. flagstaff_911sc

    flagstaff_911sc New Member

    Jun 20, 2007
    Arizona

    But the Galaxy made it the furthest of all the MLS teams. Next years SuperLiga should be based on how well the teams are doing in their season at the point where Superliga begins, not on how well they did in the previous season, they could be a completely different team in terms of play and at the lowest end of the division.....


    things that need to be corrected:
    1. air the matches in English and Spanish
    2. increase the prize money
    3. travel to Mexico for home games
    4. increase teams to 12, 6 from each league
    5. based strictly on how well they are doing in their respective league

    I think with this, the crowds will be larger (as long the stadiums don't pull what the HDC pulled and cap the crowd @ 12500 because of crowd control @ Cal State Dominguez Hills)
     
  23. Calexico77

    Calexico77 Member

    Sep 19, 2003
    Mid-City LA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does promising a return on an investment earn us a spot? At least for an inaugural year, I think it does.

    Next year, sure, it will be based on previous year's performance. That's fine.

    But don't give me any BS about how if the league wanted to succeed, they should have banked on New England and Colorado to bring in the TV and Stadium revenue.
     
  24. touch line

    touch line New Member

    Jul 3, 2007
    I suppose, but I am talking soccer here, not finances. I will leave that for you businessmen to decide.
     
  25. touch line

    touch line New Member

    Jul 3, 2007
    I like 1,3 and 5 don't care about 2 and despise 4 with a passion. Keep it a select few teams based on how they performed the year before.
     

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