Was the rescue of Jessica Lynch staged?

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by superdave, Apr 16, 2003.

  1. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
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    Check this out from that tool of the proletariat The Times.
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,5944-648517,00.html

    On the one hand, I find this accusation doubtful. I mean, if you read the article, it's pretty extreme. And almost every quote is from one doctor.

    But then, this IS the Times.

    Read the story for yourself.
     
  2. irishFS1921

    irishFS1921 New Member

    Aug 2, 2002
    WB05 Compound
    can you fix the link?
     
  3. superdave

    superdave Member+

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  4. irishFS1921

    irishFS1921 New Member

    Aug 2, 2002
    WB05 Compound
    i doubt it was staged. i wouldn't run to discredit what the guy said but from most stories you hear with special forces they tend not to do things with kid gloves on so i don't think you'd see them walk in and see everything is cool and chill out. that being said you're also dealing with a listed p.o.w. in a hospital. how do they know these are "friendly" doctors especially when there was at one point iraqi troops in the hospital. the only part i would go out to say that i think is total crap is the "ambulance" story.

    we'll have to wait for her version of everything to come about.
     
  5. DJPoopypants

    DJPoopypants New Member

    How about a small synopsis that nobody will agree on?

    American forces rushed in there quickly with limited reliable intelligence and with overwhelming force because they were not sure exactly what they would meet and wanted to cover all bases. Under such confusing and volatile situations, soldiers who had undergone weeks of fear regarding chemical weapons and civilian attacks probably were heavy-handed to other hospital residents as they were fearful of their own lives.

    And no, it was not staged. There woulda been cameras if it was. I have full trust in the army/administration that if they're gonna stage something, they'd do it right.
     
  6. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    There were cameras.
     
  7. irishFS1921

    irishFS1921 New Member

    Aug 2, 2002
    WB05 Compound
    the video was all worthless i saw most of it. just helmet cam type stuff. nothing marquee like.
     
  8. art

    art Member

    Jul 2, 2000
    Portland OR
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    This is one of those (I guess) interesting, but far too easy accusations to make, because it can't be proven one way or the other; all it does is make a bit of a spectacle. The Times seems to like those kinds of things.
     
  9. champmanager

    champmanager Member

    Dec 13, 2001
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    From when all this first happened, thats what I thought: a spectacle. Sound and fury, signifying nothing.
    I also am inclined to think this article is exaggerated, but if you want real exaggeration, go to the "Is Jessica Lynch a Hero thread," where you can hear allegations of shootings, beatings, and rape.
     
  10. fidlerre

    fidlerre Member+

    Oct 10, 2000
    Central Ohio
    i hear the whole war was actually staged on some mgm studio lot in australia...
     
  11. Waingro

    Waingro Member

    Feb 15, 2003
    San Diego, CA.
    It was. And Jessica Lynch wasn't really Jessica Lynch. It was really a bag of chips on that gurney, then they digitally added her face in place of the bag...
     
  12. fidlerre

    fidlerre Member+

    Oct 10, 2000
    Central Ohio
    i knew lucas was involved...

    i hear the iraqi army was digitalized in the whole thing too.

    that is why they disappeared so fast, they ran out of cash backing the movie.
     
  13. Waingro

    Waingro Member

    Feb 15, 2003
    San Diego, CA.
    I heard that once the cash ran out, Lucas wanted to borrow the orgy scene from Eyes Wide Shut to use as filler in place of the Iraqi army, but they had trouble negotiating with the Kubrick estate...
     
  14. Yankee_Blue

    Yankee_Blue New Member

    Aug 28, 2001
    New Orleans area
    Remember the Iraqi information minister himself said we were nowhere near there. The whole thing was staged. The toppling of the statue, Lynch being rescued, civilians being killed, all of it staged. Matter of fact, according to some really old encyclopedias, the country of Iraq doesnt even exist.
     
  15. Waingro

    Waingro Member

    Feb 15, 2003
    San Diego, CA.
    I agree. Did you see what they were using as the Saddam statue? It looked like a giant chocolate bunny!
     
  16. art

    art Member

    Jul 2, 2000
    Portland OR
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    Isn't that where they did the Moon landing?
     
  17. fidlerre

    fidlerre Member+

    Oct 10, 2000
    Central Ohio
    nahh, that was a dreamworks lot in canada
     
  18. Metros#1

    Metros#1 New Member

    May 14, 2001
    NJ
    Can I have my money back?

    For $80B, those special effects and that script were downright mediocre. I want my (tax) money back!! ;)
     
  19. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    Iraqi dude went back in after telling everything he knew with a camera to provide an exact layout of the building.

    What more would anyone need?
     
  20. DJPoopypants

    DJPoopypants New Member

    umm...how many fedayeen or real troops with guns who might be in the building or nearby? Or how many injured Iraqis lying on hospital beds with grenades a la Afghanistan? How many Saddam sympathizers who might start **** even without real weapons? Minor details like that.

    Personally, if I was SpecOpsMan, I'd wanna know all about that. And even then, I wouldn't trust the information I was given. Would you?
     
  21. bostonsoccermdl

    bostonsoccermdl Moderator
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    Apr 3, 2002
    Denver, CO
    I am kind of curious about this. I understand that her physical/mental welfare is paramount, but hasnt enough time went by where she can start to explain the details about what happened?

    Believe me, I am usually the first to criticize the media for being impatient but in this case I am anxious to hear about how she was treated..
     
  22. fidlerre

    fidlerre Member+

    Oct 10, 2000
    Central Ohio
    don't worry, you will get to see it with the 8 television movies that will come out.
     
  23. Merengue

    Merengue New Member

    Nov 4, 1999
    San Diego
    A very interesting article and one worth follow ups. The question is will the US media be afraid to counterdict what the government says and diminish a story of "heroism"?
     
  24. DJPoopypants

    DJPoopypants New Member

    Re: Re: Was the rescue of Jessica Lynch staged?

    That was a rhetorical question, right?
     
  25. argentine soccer fan

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    Jan 18, 2001
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    I have heard that the Clinton administration staged the rescue of Elian Gonzalez.
     

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