Check this out from that tool of the proletariat The Times. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,5944-648517,00.html On the one hand, I find this accusation doubtful. I mean, if you read the article, it's pretty extreme. And almost every quote is from one doctor. But then, this IS the Times. Read the story for yourself.
i doubt it was staged. i wouldn't run to discredit what the guy said but from most stories you hear with special forces they tend not to do things with kid gloves on so i don't think you'd see them walk in and see everything is cool and chill out. that being said you're also dealing with a listed p.o.w. in a hospital. how do they know these are "friendly" doctors especially when there was at one point iraqi troops in the hospital. the only part i would go out to say that i think is total crap is the "ambulance" story. we'll have to wait for her version of everything to come about.
How about a small synopsis that nobody will agree on? American forces rushed in there quickly with limited reliable intelligence and with overwhelming force because they were not sure exactly what they would meet and wanted to cover all bases. Under such confusing and volatile situations, soldiers who had undergone weeks of fear regarding chemical weapons and civilian attacks probably were heavy-handed to other hospital residents as they were fearful of their own lives. And no, it was not staged. There woulda been cameras if it was. I have full trust in the army/administration that if they're gonna stage something, they'd do it right.
This is one of those (I guess) interesting, but far too easy accusations to make, because it can't be proven one way or the other; all it does is make a bit of a spectacle. The Times seems to like those kinds of things.
From when all this first happened, thats what I thought: a spectacle. Sound and fury, signifying nothing. I also am inclined to think this article is exaggerated, but if you want real exaggeration, go to the "Is Jessica Lynch a Hero thread," where you can hear allegations of shootings, beatings, and rape.
It was. And Jessica Lynch wasn't really Jessica Lynch. It was really a bag of chips on that gurney, then they digitally added her face in place of the bag...
i knew lucas was involved... i hear the iraqi army was digitalized in the whole thing too. that is why they disappeared so fast, they ran out of cash backing the movie.
I heard that once the cash ran out, Lucas wanted to borrow the orgy scene from Eyes Wide Shut to use as filler in place of the Iraqi army, but they had trouble negotiating with the Kubrick estate...
Remember the Iraqi information minister himself said we were nowhere near there. The whole thing was staged. The toppling of the statue, Lynch being rescued, civilians being killed, all of it staged. Matter of fact, according to some really old encyclopedias, the country of Iraq doesnt even exist.
I agree. Did you see what they were using as the Saddam statue? It looked like a giant chocolate bunny!
Can I have my money back? For $80B, those special effects and that script were downright mediocre. I want my (tax) money back!!
Iraqi dude went back in after telling everything he knew with a camera to provide an exact layout of the building. What more would anyone need?
umm...how many fedayeen or real troops with guns who might be in the building or nearby? Or how many injured Iraqis lying on hospital beds with grenades a la Afghanistan? How many Saddam sympathizers who might start **** even without real weapons? Minor details like that. Personally, if I was SpecOpsMan, I'd wanna know all about that. And even then, I wouldn't trust the information I was given. Would you?
I am kind of curious about this. I understand that her physical/mental welfare is paramount, but hasnt enough time went by where she can start to explain the details about what happened? Believe me, I am usually the first to criticize the media for being impatient but in this case I am anxious to hear about how she was treated..
A very interesting article and one worth follow ups. The question is will the US media be afraid to counterdict what the government says and diminish a story of "heroism"?