I asked if what I said was controversial not if it was 100% correct or incorrect Placing Gullit over Rivera or vice versa is a matter of opinion They were split by 3 votes in the player of the century poll(the one by the experts) Gullit was a athletic specimen and perhaps a superior goalscorer(there is also the Eredivisie tax we have to take into consideration) Ruud Gullit outside of the Eredivisie was not a vastly superior goalscorer to Rivera. Gianni Rivera was a superior player in the World cup and his heights in the European Cup were definitely superior to Gullits. Bobby Charlton is ranked above Lothar Matthäus by a healthy margin. That is despite this poll taking place in 1999 the exact same year a 39 year old Lothar Matthäus captained his team to a champions league final. Even recency bias couldn’t help him https://www.iffhs.com/posts/1053 Eusebio is ranked above Marco van basten Etc IMO there is in the 1960s an equivalent or better replacement for every single great player of the 1980s IMO the greatest era of all time was 2010-2020 I will stick with this no matter what anybody says. We can about the Spanish international team. We can talk about Real madrids three peat in the champions league. We can talk about Pep Guardiolas Barcelona. We can talk about the absolutely legendary battle between Manchester City and Liverpool in the EPL. We can talk about the chokehold Bayern Munich and juventus had over their domestic divisions. We can talk about the dominance of Messi and Ronaldo. We can talk about how the forgotten players in the Messi/Ronaldo era would’ve been considered genuine era defining players had they played in different generations We can talk about a lot That decade satisfied me for life The second was 1955-1965 The third was 1985-1995 The fourth was 1965-1975 The fifth was 1995-2005 The rock bottom last was 1975-1985 Don’t forget Kevin Keegan was a multiple ballon dor winner here Serie A was still far from its peak Diego Maradona was not an accomplished player in this period at all Zico was hiding in Brazil and he doesn’t have a phenomenal record in friendly matches vs European club teams to fall back on like his predecessor. The great international team of this period was also a complete failure(Telê Santanas Brazil) Hooliganism was a stain on this era(never forget the deaths at Heysel) If Michel Platini didn’t produce a mind boggling performance in the 1984 European championship tell me even one uniquely impressive thing about this era? Platini saved it from being in the dustbins of history 2006-2009 & 2021-Today Are transitional periods Today tactics have all but eradicated individualism and freedom of expression on the pitch. We also don’t know if the best player in the world is 17 years old or if he’s Kylian Mbappe in his mid 20s. What takes the cake is Rodri was voted ballon dor winner few months ago. When this happened there wasn’t universal outrage over this(only in certain quarters) I would believe in alien abductions before i believed Sergio Busquets was a genuine ballon contender in 2010-2020. That is the state of affairs now and we move on.
Juventus vs FC Porto 1984 Final Cup Winners Cup season 1983/84 ... Platini played as a Central Midfielder in general . sometimes He drops deeper almost always in the start of the first half against FC Porto becoming one Regista " support " the whole build of the game ... the Maradona's position is equal or like Boniek .. Second Striker ... pushing the counter-Attacks .. or counter-pressing very very few times .
yes ... don't worry be happy always there ,, I was studying JUventus vs FC Porto 1984 final tactically ..." my whole game mode " Is Interesting at all Juventus vs FC Porto 1984 Final Cup Winners Cup season 1983/84 ... Platini played as a Central Midfielder in general . sometimes He drops deeper almost always in the start of the first half against FC Porto becoming one Regista " support " the whole build of the game ... the Maradona's position is equal or like Boniek .. Second Striker ... pushing the counter-Attacks .. or counter-pressing very very few times .
well I still prefer Gullit than Rivera ... Gullit was much more Total Footballer .. and more dynamic ...and versility Style ... well ... Dutch National Team Side .. and England National Team Side ... These are huge disappointments in general ... really disappointing at all the only official title is still the 1988 Euro-Cup so Gullit is the only captain champion for Holland you wishing or not ... as Charlton Banks Bobby Moore are to The England National Team Side .. wishing or not ...
El Grafico “predicted” the “coming” of Diego Maradona 50 years before it happened? Are we talking about data,footage and trophies on this thread or are we talking about shamanism?
Frank Lampard ...1021 matches ...303 Goals David Beckham ..855 matches ... 147 goals .. Steven Gerrard ...863 matches .... 211 Goals ... none Titles for England ... Platini alone is better than 3 together .... 667 matches 358 Goals .. France UEFA European Championship: 1984 Finalissima: 1985 FIFA World Cup fourth place , third place: 1986, 1982 had a penalty of Schumacher in Patrick Battiston 1982 semi-Finals ... Red card and penalty there ..on this lance ... Beckham Lampard Gerrard Scholes .. achievements with England ????
I disagree on you .. mainly ..Michel Platini and Zico .. They were extremely consistent players no injuries Platini broken an ankle in 1979 ... Zico too ankle and knee ligaments problems ...
hahaha it's funny really Scarone was the best player in the World ... in 1928 ... not Maradona yet ...later was in 1986
oh my God!! You have never even seen serious Diego documentary have you?!! How can you have a pic of Diego as your avatar and NOT be familiar with this quote!?!?!?! Before you try to have a conversation about this, you should read Angels With Dirty Faces: The Footballing History of Argentina, by Jonathan Wilson - he has a whole section on this quote. Obviously noone has magical power to predict the coming of someone, but this is a famous quote about how the football fanatics were waiting for someone like that. Honestly, I am not trying to dunk you bro. Sorry, but you clearly have limited info on this subject matter; Diego. Stop googling and try to immerse yourself on the actual games he played. If that doesn't change you, then you have no pulse.
But genius, you can use that same argument you’re making against the raw G+A per 90 numbers—that’s exactly what I’m saying. Ultimately, you have to admit that statistics are almost entirely determined by the context of each player, and therefore, since it’s something external to the player, you can’t use them to determine which player is better than another. The difference is that the contribution percentage method manages to get a bit closer to adapting to the player’s context and, therefore, is closer to reality than the raw G+A numbers, as I explained earlier.
As a side note, then, if you don't think that the raw G/A output is an indicator that one player is better than another, then Messi's record of 91 goals in a calendar year is only due to Barcelona and Argentina having a high average of goals that year, right?
But What's the Method do you think so which is the correct to compare Players ??? you are one bigger Fan Of C.Ronaldo .. your criteria is The most complete Player in All the Attributes Positions and Roles Longevity consistency Natural Fitness, Focus and great shape obsession and hunger for victory and goals