Was Maradona Overrated

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by Lincon18762, Dec 12, 2022.

  1. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024




    Of course ... that " Decisive Passes " is higher the importance





    But key passes many times .... not will be !
     
  2. Al Gabiru

    Al Gabiru Member

    Jan 28, 2020
    You're confusing key passes with big chances created. We're discussing different things.

    I think Ronaldinho, Kaká and the whole Brazil team disappointed in 2006. A bit for them and a bit for the team.

    The team was sluggish, Ronaldinho was used to playing long balls to Giuly and Eto'o, you can see in this game that he tried to open up the game, so the system affected him. But at the same time he shot very little (from 4 shots per game at Barcelona to 1.8), has responsibility too.

    Ronaldinho against France and Gullit against Ireland? Ronaldinho a little better, he has a key pass into the area for Robinho (1:26:10), more long balls, more acurate passes, he lost less possession, the difference of 0.7 is ok. But neither played very well. 6.8 for Ronaldinho and 6.5 for Gullit, perhaps.
     
  3. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024



    you are crazy man !
     
  4. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    just in the start of the match ...there ... Gullit won....headers Won ( 4)


    Gullit ... gave 3 key decisive passes ... at least !


    for me .... Ronaldinho 4.5 2006

    for me Gullit 6. 9 1988 !
     
  5. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024



    Gullit gave one amazing Long Ball to Van Basten

    then Van Basten plays short simple pass


    then Vanenburg Shots Off the Target ...
     
  6. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    Gullit numbers .... on SofaScore is wrong too !
     
  7. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024



    yes .... Gullit ..... champion... of Euro-Cup 1988

    yes Ronaldinho ...... is pretty bad .... 5 matches .... 0 goals ..... 1 assist !!


    you're right really .... hahahahahaha !
     
  8. SayWhatIWant

    SayWhatIWant Member+

    Jan 10, 2015
    Were they that bad? They were playing flowing football and even Ronaldo seemed to be performing in spite of the widespread criticism of his weight. Retrospectively, I would agree that Ronaldinho seemed slower and burnt out - but he was playing centrally rather than being deployed into open spaces on the wing.
     
  9. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024



    To show me that you are truly impartial and fair at the same time.



    Quote me with extreme and accurate details..

    about Ruud Gullit


    against Republic of Ireland 1988


    tell me details about him(Gullit ) playing in this match really and main plays ???

    Honestly for me

    you also didn't see this entire match for sure . !
     
  10. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    you are another crazy person ! by the way !
     
  11. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024



    Robinho was good there .... 7.3


    Ronaldo Nazario.... was more or less it 6.9 or 6.6 or 6.7


    Ronaldinho 4.5 or 5.5 was bad


    Kaka 2 or 3 was pretty very bad .
     
  12. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024




    yes ......
    They should change the terminology




    stop to use Decisive passes there .

    and to change
    to Key passes
    i think so !
     
  13. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024




    Detail ... you have only 20 minutes to answer about Ruud Gullit ..1988



    you said that you saw already ;;;;this match against Ireland 1988 .. before



    so tell me about the match of Ruud Gullit give me too much Details ???
     
  14. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024



    The Time is over for you ..... even ... you don't watched this whole game ... Holland vs Rep Of Ireland ...1988 ...


    you don't know to answer ...this question ...clearly ...


    honestly ... i'm starting to think ...that you are a great lier ..honestly don't talk to me anymore ... !
     
  15. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    The Time is over for you !
     
  16. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    The Time is over for you ! you don't know nothing about Football ! that's it man !
     
  17. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024



    Liar !
     
  18. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    I'm looking or watching ... this match... Holland ...vs Republic Of Ireland in 1988


    until now ... i'm on 27 minutes ... in the first half



    Gullit has 10 aerial attempts ... ( 5 ) Headers Won ...

    2 dribbles attempts
    2 dribbles completed



    Long Balls 3 (2)

    to Van Basten ....

    Crossing Attempt 1 ( 0 )
    2 key decisive passes .... until here ... 27 minutes in the first half ...
     
  19. Loco

    Loco Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    May 1, 2005
    Miami
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    What the heck happened to this thread? I mean, its an idiotic topic to begin with, but it has now devolved into what this topic is. Insane.
     
    Wiliam Felipe Gracek repped this.
  20. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024




    I'm here ... to defending ...the older Players .... as Maradona ... Puskas ... Gullit ... hahahaha !
     
    Loco repped this.
  21. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    Liar ...... and FanBoy of Ronaldinho !
     
  22. Loco

    Loco Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    May 1, 2005
    Miami
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    HA AH HA! Agree.

    When speaking to anyone under 25 and they reference positions, I know when they don't know sh#4 if they sound like they are reading a line-up of video games.

    It's borderline impossible to assess between players from different times. Its why sports talk radio stations exist, b/c those arguments can't be resolved. Its a trap. You really only judge a player by how he was regarded in their time, and Maradona was hailed as the best of his era. He is one of the 3 best players ever. Full Stop.
     
    Wiliam Felipe Gracek repped this.
  23. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024



    yes .... Diego ... is Top 10 easily .... for sure ! Top 5 ... or Top 3 ... depend Of Criteria ....

    but no problems ... to put ..Maradona ... in Top 3 ..also !



    i'm talking about this .... because ... i saw so many many whole matches ... of Diego


    World Cup 1986 .. is incredible to see .... is extraordinary ... to see always !
     
  24. comme

    comme Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 21, 2003
    Ok, stop this now. Stop making post after post, repeating these things and cluttering things up.

    I’ll do a tidy up later.
     
    Wiliam Felipe Gracek repped this.
  25. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024



    Gullit until ...now ... Headers Won ( 7) 13 .... 39:73 minutes in the first half !
     

Share This Page