Walter Samuel???

Discussion in 'Argentina' started by Lockjaw, Oct 19, 2004.

  1. Lockjaw

    Lockjaw BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 8, 2004
    Kaiserslautern
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hello Argentina Forum Members.

    Walter Samuel is really struggling at Real Madrid. He has 5 yellow cards in 9 games, he is often out of position and in our last game against Real Betis on Saturday, he was pulled out at half time.

    Any one understand this? Do they play such a different style in Italy? What can we expect from Mr Samuel?
     
  2. nigerianman

    nigerianman Red Card

    Sep 29, 2004
    I thought i was the only one that was worried about the play of Walter Samuel, was beginning to think if i was just being irrational.

    Yes he his struggling big time and i couldnt have said it better than you did. He plays out of position, gets caught napping in the back and when he tries to make up ground he fouls the striker and this is why he has 5 cards in in 9 games. I am not as much worried about his play at Real but more for Argentina - i saw him against Uruguay (WCQ) and i was totally frustrated because with his play and was putting Heinze in a bad predicament. The midfield guy right in-front of him had to play so deep cos Samuel was leaking badly. I hope when he finally screws up its playing for Real. He has gotten a yellow card in every game have seen him play for Real. I never saw him play for Roma but jeez, is there some kind of virus going on amongst Real Players?

    I started a thread on him right after the WCQing game.
     
  3. Lockjaw

    Lockjaw BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 8, 2004
    Kaiserslautern
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry, nigerianman, for not seeing your earlier post. Samuel has lots of intensity and perhaps he is trying too hard. Real Madrid paid big money for him & I know he must be feeling the pressure.
     
  4. vipnerd

    vipnerd Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2003
    La Mitad + Román
    Samuel was outstanding at Boca, Roma and Argentina's NT.

    What is wrong with him now? ... well, the answer lies on the DM at Real Madrid. Ever since Makelele left to Chelsea, Real is struggling badly in the back. Samuel (and most defenders for that) is a solution provided you have a balanced midfield.

    As to the yellows .. I've seen most of Real's games ... he is having a hard time with the refs in La Liga ... who btw are not great refs. The difference of play ... and what is tolerated in La Liga is very different to Serie A or Argentinian tournies.

    Those yellows appear more often when you have the other team coming at you with lots of space due to Real's terrible DM play.


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  5. just another overated argie player whos suckiness has been proven yet again
     
  6. nigerianman

    nigerianman Red Card

    Sep 29, 2004
    Ilovecolombia - lets put a pedal on generalizing based on nationality. Yes, his weakness is so evident in his plays so far but i agree with vipnerd - there is no natural holding midfielder in real madrid anymore, they all want to score goals, even the defenders are flying forward for goals and all rushing back to defend. i guess with the Argentine WCQ game that i saw, Walter was under the impression he was playing in La Liga cos he was always wide open. I know am not that good of a footballer but if i played in that game, i would have beaten him down the field atleast twice. he was leaking badly and i dont know how Uruguay couldnt exploit that cos he needed help which left the middle open.

    I have seen Roma play about 5 times this year and their defence is just horrible not surehow Walter got rated so high with them.In my amateur opinion, i think he needs more concentration - he will lose his touch if all he thinks about is that he his a galactico. he doesnt wanna bounce around like Mr Veron.
     
  7. Allystuta

    Allystuta New Member

    Sep 17, 2004
    ilovecolombia is just an idiot. he really doesn't know anything about soccer and embarrasses with his posts.
     

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