Waived player list

Discussion in 'NWSL' started by grendel, Feb 21, 2003.

  1. grendel

    grendel New Member

    Nov 15, 2002
    Player Position Team
    Mercy Akide Forward San Diego Spirit
    Ann Cook Midfielder Washington Freedom
    Amanda Cromwell Defender Atlanta Beat
    Justi Baumgardt-Yamada Midfielder New York Power
    Meredith Beard Forward Washington Freedom
    Alexa Borisjuk Midfielder Boston Breakers
    Sarah Dacey Defender/Midfielder Boston Breakers
    Krista Davey Midfielder New York Power
    Carey Dorn Midfielder San Jose CyberRays
    Fan Yunjie Defender San Diego Spirit
    Erin Fahey Goalkeeper Washington Freedom
    Ronnie Fair Defender New York Power
    Allie Kemp Forward/Midfielder Boston Breakers
    Sherrill Kester Midfielder San Diego Spirit
    Tara Koleski Midfielder Philadelphia Charge
    Erin Martin Forward Philadelphia Charge
    Rebekah McDowell Midfielder Washington Freedom
    Wynne McIntosh Forward San Diego Spirit
    Tracey Milburn Forward Washington Freedom
    Kim Montgomery Forward New York Power
    Minna Mustonen Forward Carolina Courage
    Theresa Wagner Midfielder San Jose CyberRays
    Staci Wilson Defender Carolina Courage
    Sarah Yohe Midfielder Boston Breakers
    Maite Zabala Goalkeeper Philadelphia Charge

    The WUSA Exercise of Option Date also witnessed a trade between the New York Power and Washington Freedom. New York traded goalkeeper Gao Hong to the Washington for future considerations

    http://www.wusa.com/press_room/342872.html
     
  2. that waiver list is BS
     
  3. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Why???

    There are several players that "might" become major contributers for other teams but few, if any, really helped the team they were playing for and some hurt their team by poor play or lack of concentration at important times.

    There is talent in this list but it mostly does not fit their current teams very well.

    There are several that should be picked up by other teams and a few that will rejoin their old team.

    Also there are some players that seem to have an in with their current teams in spite of poor play and really should be moved out to make room for other tallent.

    All in all this is about par for a young pro sport waiver pool and should not hurt or help any team very much.

    Also the really neat thing is that there are a few that could really shine with the right mix on another team and a few that have been given a wake up call and will now work harder.

    Lastly remember that players are often placed on waivers with the full intention of the same team picking them up again. I do not know the structural reason teams do this but it is quite common in all pro sports. I see at least four on this list that I believe may fall into this category:

    Amanda Cromwell Defender Atlanta Beat
    Ronnie Fair Defender New York Power
    Rebekah McDowell Midfielder Washington Freedom
    Staci Wilson Defender Carolina Courage

    There may be others or there may be reasons that these players are being freed up but I would be surprised if least two of these are not with their original teams at the start of the season.
     
  4. "There are several players that "might" become major contributers for other teams but few, if any, really helped the team they were playing for and some hurt their team by poor play or lack of concentration at important times"

    i agree with you on that but players like lorrie fair,staci wilson,erin martin,erin fahey,etc really didnt derserve to get waived and i think that the teams made some bad judgements, Im jus hoping that Willie gets picked up by another team
     
  5. Chiefs

    Chiefs New Member

    Dec 21, 2001
    Maybe the girls on the waiver list should just form their own team! The more teams the better and I am sure they would put up a good fight even though they are the "waivers"
     
  6. Tsunami

    Tsunami Member

    Oct 16, 2000
    SD, CA
    Club:
    Arsenal LFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What about the players that were on the various teams reserve lists?

    For instance, the Spirit had Shauna Rohbock, Shelley Finger, and Flo Omagbemi on theirs. Are they free agents, or still reserves?
     
  7. PoetSong

    PoetSong New Member

    Jun 9, 2002
    Massachusetts
    Why (Structural Reasons)

    I don't know if this is what you mean by "structural reasons" but because if a player is waived by a team and then resigned by the same team, the player then receives a new contract for less money...... finances.

    Might Kemp and Yohe be two of those, too? Depending on how the draftees do- though with Stephanie M-B, Yohe's door might be shut..... pity.. she's such a charming personality on the field.. hopefully she will develop... err.. show what she has the potential of...
     
  8. sushibait

    sushibait New Member

    Dec 7, 2000
    I agree with SWilson27roxx!! The coaches seem to think that the college players are going to just step in and contribute on the level of the players you mentioned and I don't see it happening.
     
  9. DennisM

    DennisM Member

    Dec 10, 2000
    Nya Sverige
    Find me any team in the world at a professional that can play an entire season with just 16 teams and I'll be quiet. And I have to agree that the college players will not be able to contribute right away. Rebekah is still injured so maybe they will keep her on reserves but Baugardt, Fair, Cromwell, Wilson, Martin and Fair are all quality players. Koleski is still injured and she was squeezed out by Krikorian's obsession with midfielders. But still they should form their own team. I bet they would not do too badly.
     
  10. terp fan

    terp fan New Member

    Nov 21, 2000
    Too bad

    This is a sad day for women's professional soccer. When rosters start shinking is it forshadowing of fewer teams and then no league at all? The smaller rosters certainly don't create much confidence in potential investors, it's obviously the league is in big trouble to do this. Stay tuned.
     
  11. FC Carolina

    FC Carolina New Member

    Feb 3, 2003
    Perth, W.A.
    I mentioned this over in the Spirit forum, but I think it needs to be said here, too.

    Last year: 18 active players, 2 reserves, 20 total

    This year: 16 active players, 2 reserves, 2 developmental, 20 total.

    The numbers are the same between the start of this season and last. Only the designations are different. Yes, this means that the payroll is probably going to be cut somewhat. But when it comes down to it, it means that now home teams will only be able to dress 5 potential substitutes for a game. This was already the case for visiting teams.

    Teams had to make decisions to get to 16 players yesterday. Some of them will be good, some will be bad. We'll see what happens at training camp, when a lot of the players who were cut yesterday will be invited to try out.

    But once again, let me point out...the roster size for the start of the 2003 season IS THE SAME as the roster size for the start of the 2002 season.
     
  12. FearM9

    FearM9 New Member

    Jul 14, 2000
    On my bike
  13. piper

    piper New Member

  14. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    That's your 16 player roster limit at work.
     
  15. DCUPopeAndLillyFan

    Apr 20, 2000
    Colorado
    I think they didn't draft anybody so they could save on the phone bill
     
  16. XYZ

    XYZ New Member

    Apr 16, 2000
    Big Cat Country
    big bench savings

    The W*USA's going to have some cold benches. They won't have enough bench-warmers to keep them warm. But look at the good news. Aside from the money they save on salaries, they won't need long benches, so they can save money there, too.
     
  17. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    The actual numbers on the bench will not change much.

    Lets see on the bench there will also be:
    One head coach.
    At least one assistant coach.
    A GK coach.
    A Trainer.
    An equipment person.
    A water person.
    A bench stat person (I would think that a main Stat person would be up with the press but I have seen someone that was not part of the main staff taking some kind of notes at most WUSA games.
    Two or three other support people whose functions will remain a mystery.

    I have noticed an increase in the number of support people on the bench each year.

    Soon it will get like American Football where it takes 25 support people to get 24 players dressed correctly and to the fields.

    I am waiting for:
    an offensive corner kick coach
    a defensive corner kick coach
    an offensive long free kick coach
    a defensive long free kick coach
    a PK coach
    a cleat selection coach
    a midfield coach
    a forward coach
    a defense coach

    and most important a goal celebration coach.

    I hope that league officials make an effort to figure a way to get rosters back up to at least 20 because a lack of depth can kill this great league just as easily as a lack of money.

    While money MUST be generated for survival if the rosters are maintained this low there will be much incentive to push players back into the lineup before they are ready. Or, even more likely, play recovering players too much too soon after they are back but before they are able to play that much.

    We have already seen some of this but the lack of depth will cause it more and more.

    Remembering that the EPL is established and mostly healthy there was a debate on an EPL web site about 2 years ago about roster sizes and they came up with a consensus that 24-26 is the perfect active roster with 4 "injured" spots extra.

    The WUSA is a LONG way from that kind of active rostering but going below 18 active is quite disturbing.

    Lastly, as the lack of pick up of waivers shows, the WUSA is going to loose a lot of tallent that just needs a little time to develop.

    Some of the waived players will still be picked back up and some will find minor leagues to play in but a lot will simply be gone.
     

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